https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

Pet hate ...

... pointless, meaningless posts in sentence discussions when they are posting the first comment. Such as a phrase in regards to a food and then someone posts the first "question" which simply says "yummy" or some such nonsense. Great people like Sitesurf probably also waste time checking these entries which don't appear to be replied to. Do the site a favour and don't spam the sentence discussions.

Why , because apart from being time wasting, it is childish. The words , "get a life" do come to mind. Also remember non-language spam could, according to DL's guidelines (so I'm told), come back to bite you on the bum.

August 15, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/territrades

Duolingo is not only about strict learning, but also about fun, so let people have their chit-chat in the discussion. Normally, useful comments are upvoted so that they appear first. I know this can get out of hand (in Spanish from English it does), but courses with fewer learners often have few to none comments per phrase.

August 15, 2016

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    I like you. Have a lingot.

    I could get super snarky with the OP but suffice to say, people of this mindset aren't the kind of folks I personally want to engage. I prefer letting people be human. They are going to make mistakes, they are going to get frustrated, they are going get bored and they will need a way to lighten to mood. This isn't a class where you paid tuition and have to endure half the class being off-task. I've been there, done that. That is genuinely annoying and frustrating. But all the same, I have never been in a productive learning environment where people didn't make little jokes and have some fun. It keeps people engaged, it keeps them from getting burnt out and it keeps them wanting to come back day after day. And I speak from experience--I spent 9 years in uni and have spent nearly my entire adult life working in education in one way or another.

    Given how Duolingo is designed, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this, as long as the comments are appropriate for the entire community. These comments don't derail your learning and they don't hijack your time, unless you choose to focus on them. I find them easy to ignore--and I have a valid clinical diagnosis to explain how very easily distracted and off-task I tend to get--and as far as I'm concerned, anyone who gets this upset about a little harmless fun needs to adjust their attitude and priorities. Like, pronto.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lento_Rodriguez

    I don't mind a little fun, lingot posts and hi posts or forum spam doesn't bother me in the least. But these comments in the sentence discussions do hijack your time, at least the old courses like Spanish. There can be a dozens goof off posts you have to sort through to find the answer to a question you may have. If the sentence is funny they could easily take it to the forums and crack jokes.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tarjava

    I agree, I've had a lot of hearty laughs from comments in the sentence discussions unrelated to grammar. The puns or the insanities one can find in there made learning easier, because I remember the laugh, the pun and the vocabulary or grammar all together. When it is not funny or clutter, I just ignore, and make sure to simply upvote the useful posts when relevant. I gcónaí? I gcónaí. being a memorable one, I never forgot this Irish expression only because of the discussions on it.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ruferales

    Your attitude is admirable Ceid-Donn, "I prefer letting people be human", that's pretty much the answer to this thread, nice comment!

    August 17, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    It would be fine it that were actually true. Unfortunately, some animals are more equal than others.

    The people in the "In-crowd" get to post whatever they want with impunity while the self-satisfied little Eichmanns that patrol the forums downvote anyone who's not in "the Club".

    These include people with legitimate questions, but whose English might not be so great.

    I have had moderators tell me this isn't facebook then go on to gaslight me by proceeding to break the very guidelines they cited.

    I've seen legitimate questions go unanswered, meanwhile people who ought to know better will respond to and up-vote nonsense. For someone waiting for a legitimate answer, it can be VERY disheartening.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUUhDoCx8zc

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

    I have had moderators tell me this isn't facebook then go on to gaslight me by proceeding to break the very guidelines they cited.

    Hi, when you see this happening, please report the moderator just as you would any other user who is abusing the system: https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/articles/205101500-How-do-I-report-abuse-

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    @ Ceid-Donn

    Public education is free in Australia so, yeah, I find it annoying even on a free learning platform like Duolingo.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

    The discussion is not where chit-chat belongs.

    When you post a comment in a sentence discussion, you get a warning IN RED that begins with the words "Stop the clutter!":

    --

    Furthermore, the guidelines say:

    Please don't use Duo to...

    Spam the forum or people’s streams

    Leaving a trail of irrelevant entries in forums or on people’s streams may get your account deleted. This includes not only creating posts without substance, but also any other type of spamming.

    --

    And, finally, the Moderators' Guidelines ask the moderators to "Remove irrelevant or outdated content, as well as repeated comments on the same thread".

    --

    So yes, by all means visit and chit chat in the activity streams, but we do need to keep the sentence discussions on topic so that they remain relevant and useful to all learners. Duolingo is a fun place, and a social place, but the sentence discussions are not the place for chit chat. The sentence discussions are for discussing the sentence: vocabulary, structure, verb tense, grammar, etc.

    If you notice a sentence discussion that is out of control, please let a moderator know. We try to keep them clean but it's impossible to look through all of the sentence discussions all the time. Thank you!

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    Chat on streams of friends or in facebook. Even in the main forums but keep it out of the sentence discussion forums.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KolonelSpons

    Totally! Or even worse (in my view):

    "Why was my answer marked wrong? This means the same as what I put. By the way, I'm not going to tell you what I put, or what reason Duo gave for marking me wrong, I'm just going to insist that what I said - whatever I said - is correct and should be accepted. Also, I didn't hit the 'report' button."

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    Spot on - totally annoying!! A bit of specificity would be nice.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    It's easy to be lured into leaving silly comments when first joining DL since everyone seems to do it. Then, one realises how annoying it is.

    As a result, I've gone back and deleted most of the stupid messages I left.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    You, J, never!! ;D Seriously, I left them too on the general forum but NEVER on sentence forums (unless they already had dozens of comments, even then very rarely but always language related).

    I am not referring to the general forums but the sentence discussion forum. After all, if you know how to translate a phrase or sentence, why leave a comment in the sentence discussion forum for that phrase/sentence?

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    Personally, I think they (someone) ought to preserve the useful comments and scrub the rest.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/A_User

    They actually do delete a lot of the useless comments. And if there's a thread particularly full of them you can always report it to one of the mods and they'll take care of it.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

    Couldn't have said it better myself :)

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/A_User

    Why thank you! :-)

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    This is just one example. Some of the comments are 2 years old. There are many that are much worse.

    https://www.duolingo.com/comment/784574

    If you scroll down far enough, you'll actually find a legitimate question, which BTW was downvoted.

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    They've come and cleaned it up!! All the useless stuff was gone by the time I got there - good work :D.

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    100 % d'accord !

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

    How do you even find them?

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lento_Rodriguez

    I don't get bothered by much but this is one thing that gets me.

    Some of the Spanish sentence discussions are impossible. There will be some very lame joke made about the sentence and it will have dozens of comments under it, then you scroll down and 10 more people have made the same lame joke and they have their comments.

    I like to goof off and have fun as much as anyone but I'm there to learn and there are a bunch of clowns throwing paper airplanes around. If it didn't take up my time when I'm in learning mode I wouldn't care but you have to scroll a mile reading nonsense to get to any useful discussion.

    A lot of these lame jokes are over year old and have 500 up-votes so down-voting them doesn't help at all.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/writchie4

    Portuguese is a little better. It's only like 200-300 upvotes: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/325114

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lento_Rodriguez

    That's a perfect example.

    August 16, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elizabeth261736

    It probably seems "childish" because many of the people making posts like this are actually children. Most of us just ignore it, although it gets worse during the school year.

    August 15, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ruferales

    You are being too harsh and it makes no sense, it's like asking people to stop having fun. Some sentences are awkward or have funny second meanings and people simply react to them, that's all.

    Maybe Duolingo could offer a collapse button for comments and their replies, for users who feel inconvenient to scroll down a bit.

    August 17, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ripcurlgirl

    Scroll down a BIT?? I've scrolled though 80+ meaningless comments in search of useful advice. What about users whose first language isn't English? Can you even begin to imagine how much time they are wasting. Go elsewhere for your childish "fun" just don't use the sentence discussion forums where I am yet to read a witty, off-topic remark. They are always purile, lame and/or pointless. As Ceid-Donn said in a different context, some people "need to adjust their attitude and priorities. Like, pronto."

    August 17, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    I don't entirely disagree with you. For instance, I think the general forum should be more lenient. Just not in the sentence discussions.

    But along with the trolls and other various critters, often with multiple accounts, who go about downvoting everything they don't understand or have a disagreement with, it's difficult to do have fun or have a serious discussion.

    Below is a discussion posted by someone in Polish. It's clear that all the people who downvoted this didn't even bother to consider if maybe it was another language (ironically, on a language site). They just downvoted it.

    Meanwhile, the "fun" gets upvoted, summarily burying legitimate posts.

    August 17, 2016

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aistobe

    Moreover, the person who made the post cannot see that someone (me) upvoted them. They just see a big, fat -5 and assume everyone hates them. Sad.

    August 17, 2016
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