"A kicsi repülőgép a vízre esik."
Translation:The small airplane is falling onto the water.
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So are you saying that the speaker of the Hungarian sentence intends the meaning to be that the plane falls onto the surface of the water? I'm just wondering if the plane fell onto the water and then was submerged, maybe partially, but definitely got under the surface, and the way to say this in Hungarian is "vízre" (not "vízbe"). And in English we just use a different word for that?
My question here is, which scenario is the Hungarian sentence describing?
I always do report the problem/s Wazav the problem here is 'onto' has been accepted as the answer for the past 4 or 5 months while 'into' (a much better translation btw was not) Now ONLY 'into' is accepted and 'onto' is NOW excluded. After a lot of thought I could make an argument for including 'onto' It seems however we only get the one choice at any one time! Hence my remark of inconsistency.
By way of comparison, the only things which can "fall" on or onto water are things that, after falling (an uncontrolled process, compared to landing), upon hitting the surface of the water would explicitly stay on the surface - things like leaves, light, rain, etc.
Other objects which can stay on the surface, but only in a controlled manner would be birds, airplanes, superheroes who can fly, etc., and they would "land" on the water, not fall.
The use of the word "fall" is critical here.
There is another sentence in this section 'A boy steps ONTO the water and walks' This is not a kindergarten teacher, just a regular everyday boy. So what will happen when Duolingo decide that this boy steps 'INTO' the water? Personally I feel that both answers need to be accepted even though they have completely different meanings, if not we are just left guessing each time. In another section 'A dog lies ONTO. the ground' but lets not go there just now :)
Martybet - really, no, we should not accept both. One is patently incorrect, and was only included due to the non-native-english speaking backgrounds of those who wrote the lesson. "Into" is the only correct version.
Yes, this can be confusing, as one was accepted before, but isn't now, but again, this course is in Beta - things which are wrong will be corrected. You have to use this with that expectation.
Since we all agree that something sufficiently heavy (and lacking other physical properties that would keep it afloat) would fall into water, I'm wondering why this sentence is phrased as "...a vízre esik," and not "...a vízbe esik." Isn't that the right translation for "falls into the water"? Or is this one of those cases where -ra/-re is used but people still mean that the object is submerged once it reaches the water?
So would a leaf fall into the water or onto the water? as I say I have had time to think this one over. Only because the answer was always in the past 'onto' until very recently. The problem here is that 're' 'ra' (onto) doesn't always translate well into English. But all I'm saying is there should still be the option to include it in our choice of answers, and not NOW exclude it just because Duolingo have decided on another option.
A leaf would fall "onto" the water. Eventually it would sink "into" the water, but leaves inherently float. :-)
This takes us back to the original drive of some of the above questions: is "esik" used both to "fall" as well as to "land"? My recollections of this question to my first teacher seem to say no, that a different verb gets used in Hungarian to "land" but I'm not sure. If so, then this is either a weird mistaken mashup, or there's some other implication going on that nobody has illuminated us about.
Of course and nothing else.Hungarian is fantastically reformed and organized language.English are conservative and they did not let updating their language in the last centuryso we have here problems not with Hungarian but with English,but what can we do for us NonEnglish speakers.is to study and refresh all the the time
Where is the FAA when you need them?
What type of plane crashed?
Is the goverment trying to hide the truth from us? When can we expect the blockbuster movie based on this dramatic event?
As far as i understand the comments:
A kicsi repülőgép a vízre esik. meaning:
A papírrepülő a vízre esik.
Or "real" planes:
A kicsi repülőgép a vízbe esik.
A repülőgép a vízbe esik.
A (kicsi) repülőgép a vízre landol/leszáll. (no le- for landol i guess?)
This is one of those situations where you need to translate the meaning rather than the words. We might be saying it in two different languages, but physics works the same way everywhere. If a plane falls and hits water, it's going to go into the water. And if "a vízre" is the right way to say that in Hungarian, we'll just have to remember that. In English we'll continue to describe it as "into the water." Either way, it's the same phenomenon.
Or else, the water is frozen. I mean, frozen solid. :)
Usually a plane falls IN the water (vizbe) unless it was something like Captain Sullenberger who landed his plane ON the Hudson (vizre). :)
We really need to correct the English translations here while accepting the Hungarian sentences, most of the time. Unfortunately, there are Hungarian errors as well, but the biggest problem with being marked incorrect is that there are so many more ways to say things in English than Hungarian and the course writers are too literal. We need more contributors. I am in the process of selling my house and moving to another area but when I am settled I will help.