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https://www.duolingo.com/KissZoltan2

500.000,- learners achieved (2016.08.22)

In less than 3 monthes additional 100k new users and now we achieved the number 500.000,- what is really significant. The esperanto has nowadays a boom, more and more opportunities to learn and use the language. Lot of courses (duolingo, memrise, lingq, lernu and so on), more and more opportunities to watch and hear on (youtube, retradio and so on) and the direct access of esperantists is always easier with more and more tools (different apps on mobile phones etc.). After Amikumu will be launched and widely used than esperanto will be a really world wide used language, where different speakers will/could be connected and they can meet each other wherewhere at least two esperantists exist. It will be no Pokemon hunting, but Esperantists hunting. I think Esperanto is on the best way to be a world wide used language. I contribute to this process also myself with creation of a webpage (in progress) an others.

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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It is certainly an exciting time to be learning Esperanto! :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/balou67
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Pretty exciting times indeed. I just wanted to remind that among those who finished their tree, there is certainly a group of already proficient Esperanto-speakers who went through for fun or to correct/improve the course. And it's likely to be true with the es-eo course too. (Which is needed and great, of course.)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kliphph
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Amikumu MDR (multe da ridoj)! Mi esperas ke mi ne trovos mortintajn esperantistojn en la rivero, nek renkonti ŝtelistojn kun esperantistoj "lure" en malluma parkado....

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vexillology1
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This is definitely exciting! The fact that the number of learners has not hit a plateau but continued to grow after almost a year is encouraging. When the Spanish version of Esperanto launches, hopefully even more people will take up this language!

Just out of curiosity, does the Zoltan in your username refer to presidential candidate Zoltan Istvan?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenecxjoGoldberg

Ni dancu !!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stephenr512

It's really good to see so many people taking a interest in Esperanto. But being realistic, I wonder how many of those 500,000 are actually active learners who have reached the first checkpoint, or even gone beyond the first two "Basics" skills.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KissZoltan2

Hi Stephen I think about 10% achieved the final stage in Duolinge. However Duolingo is not only one learning tool, but a very good marketing tool, lot of people realize through it what esperanto is. As i wrote they are currently more and more opportunities to learn, practice and use the language. If we would have the software Amikumu (the Pokemon style hunter for Esperantists), than we could have find esperantists in all corner of the world and keep them in contact. Technology helps esperanto to be a really world language, this is very exciting, earlier this was impossible, but now it can be reality.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stephenr512

Thanks for the reply, KissZoltan2. I wasn't intending to be negative or in any way disparaging, and my apologies if my post came across that way. I agree that half a million people taking even an interest in Esperanto can only be a good thing, and if as many as 10% make as far as completing their tree then that really is amazing. It makes me more determined than ever to become part of that 10%!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KissZoltan2

Your mail was not negative at all, it is good to have doubts. Esperanto will be very exciting in a near future.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BerberuEsperanto

In school students can study French ~ 5 years (40 weeks/yr * 4 lessons @30min, about 400 hours). By end only about 10% of students would receive passing grade, & not all of those would be understood in France.

Esperanto estas tre promesplena.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mensogulo
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Dek elcentoj? Mi pensas ke tio estas tro. Ekzemple, mi ankoaŭ ne finis mian arbon.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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People who promote websites LOVE big numbers, but you're absolutely right. It's worth asking what these numbers really mean. With 150 millions users on Duolingo over all, you only need a small percentage to click on the Esperanto course thinking it's Español to reach 500,000 users.

I believe only a tiny proportion of those 500,000 are actually finishing the course -- I recall it was on the order of 3%.

The other assumption that seems to be made is that none of these 500,000 people would be learning Esperanto if Duolingo didn't exist. I saw two Duolingo learners on Saturday. One had been learning for three years (well before there was a Duolingo course). The other had been turned on to Esperanto by the first guy. Don't get me wrong. I think it's WONDERFUL that they have Duolingo as a resource, but they would be learning Esperanto with or without Duolingo.

What really remains to be seen is whether the people who discovered Esperanto on Duolingo, use Duolingo as their primary source, and are Duolingo crazy -- whether these people will learn the language to the point where they actually speak it. Whether these people will make real world friends through Esperanto, and so on. To me, that's much more interesting than 500,000 people clicking on a course.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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Its very interesting, last time we discussed this there was some data available, not a lot but its whatbduo made available to amazulo If i recall correctly , 20 to 30 percent of people who use duolingo do so via the website, ( the rest use the app for which stats are not made available apparently) and it was held at the time that 30 people a day were finishing the tree. So that could be anything from 10 to 60 thousand people finishing in a year. Some will give up almost immediately - the wrong language clickers but since its esperanto and Spanish on the courses available list not esperanto and espanol this seems less likely to me than is being suggested. Some will give up after doing quite bit, lets call it Halfway through in esperanto thats not a bad beginning on a language - , they will then have heard of esperanto and will know some words and a goodly chunk of grammar and if they had to might be able to puzzle out how to read or communicate if there was no other auxilary language available to them. Some will complete, have a basic level and move on, some will eventually become fluent.

Duo was my main esperanto kick starter for esperanto. I finished the course. I can read and understand spoken esperanto quite well, speak it haltingly and because of my dyslexia write it quite poorly. I have met fellow esperantists, attended classess and made friends in the worldwide virtual community. I have also started vlogging about how to use the duolingo app to learn esperanto.

I encouraged my brother to take it up - he used duo and finished the tree, he also has made virtual esperanto friends and he and i trade insults back and forth in esperanto, just like a couple of siblings should.

Next stop my husband - he is using duo ( and asking me a couple of questions some of which i can even answer) and is halfway through the tree.

I almost have one of my grown up children signed up and am plotting how to teach my imminent first grandchild the language so we can bond over our 'secret family language' while he gains a second language and all the benefits that entails.

None of this would have happened without duolingo.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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Certainly you're not claiming to be a typical Duolingo user. I absolutely appreciate you and your enthusiasm - nu, kaj fakte, eble mi devus respondi en Esperanto. Mi certe ne volas elspezi tro da tempo defendante hazardan supozon (t.e. kiom da personoj aligxas al la kurso pensante ke ili aligxas al Esperanza.) Mi ankaux ne negas ke multaj personoj auxdas la nomon "Esperanto" dank'al Duolingo. Klare kelkaj (ekz-e vi) Duolinganoj ja venas al veraj renkontigxoj - kaj vi ne estas la sola ekzemplo.

Mi mezuros la aferon jene: Cxiun auxtunon mi organizas renkontigxon en novjorkio cxe la Lago Georgo. Pasintjare venis pli ol 45 personoj. Mi esperas interesi nur unu elcento de unu elcento (0.01%) de tiuj 500 000 novaj lernantoj veni al nia renkontigxo. Se en Oktobro venos 50 novaj personoj, tiam mi vere imponigxos pri tiu cifero "500 000".

http://are-esperanto.org/ https://www.facebook.com/events/878659765593725/

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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Kompreneble vi pravas. Ni vidos

Also ....a new word ....imponigxi ......squee.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KimJoonHyuk
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"Imponiĝi". Mi ne dirus, "squee," sed mi havas la saman senton. :-) Dankon por instruis al ni bonan novan vorton!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lyubomirv
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I've been wondering the same. Surely, not all of those have become fluent. But whatever the percent is, increasing numbers mean that those that will become fluent increase too.

It would be good if Duolingo can set up a test for determining the level or something but I cannot ask that of them.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW
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Wow, this means that approximately 20% of the world's Esperanto speakers (regardless of fluency) come from Duolingo!

This doesn't take into account the popularity of tools like Lernu! and whatever courses are offered by the UEA.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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Hi Jack. I'm not quite sure how you came up with that number, but it is certainly not true that 20% of the world's Esperanto speakers come from Duolingo. I invite you to check out the following thread:

"Esperanto is Old" https://www.duolingo.com/comment/14550680

Esperanto has been around for 130 years, and while the Duolingo phenomenon is impressive, it's only been going on for a little more than a year. It has been said (although not necessarily substantiated) that there are 5 times as many people learning Esperanto today than in the 80's. If we accept that statistic, then this means that there has been maybe 5 years of progress in the last year -- but compare that always to 130 years.

Comparing half a million Esperanto learners to the fabled "two million" fluent speakers of Esperanto is not at all an apples-to-apples comparison. This is 500,000 people who clicked on the course. Of those, only 2 or 3 % actually finish the tree, and most tree finishers are nowhere near fluent. Many say publicly that now that they're done with the Esperanto tree, they're done learning Esperanto.

What remains to be seen is whether we see statistics (and not just anecdotes) about increased attendance at Esperanto events, such as the Auxtuna Renkontigxo de Esperanto on Lake George in upstate NY this October.

I suspect, by the way, that the UEA is mostly irrelevant to Esperanto learning.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JackyDW
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Well, all I did was divide one number by another and completely neglect to do any research, so I won't disagree. What if I changed the word "speakers" to "students"?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/builderofthecake

Esperas mi, ke daŭros esti novuloj, kiuj lernas Esperanton kaj fluiĝas en la lingvo. Eble iu tagon mi renkontos Esperantiston ekstere de la interreto xD

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenecxjoGoldberg

Konstruanto de la kuko, Ni bezonos kukon ĉe NASK ! Mi revenos la 28an de junio ĝis la 7a de julio 2017. Vi certe havus instruisto de Europo. Venu, venu kaj ĝuu !

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/builderofthecake

Mi volus, ha ha, sed mi ankoraŭ ĉeestas la gimnazion, kaj ĝis mi efektive povas iri al lokoj sen mia familio, ne povos mi ĉeesti NASK-on :

2 years ago