https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb

My fifth tree - just finished Hungarian

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A huge thank you to the Hungarian team. I had never thought of going back to Hungarian and it felt like getting reacquainted with an old friend - thank you for making this so easy.

Hungarian is possibly my favourite language - it is so easy with ö rather than idle he/she/it differences, and so logical with the vowel harmony and suffixes that just add themselves to one another.

Just a thought, as it's still in beta: maybe devoting more time to the verbs (things like én latok egy vilagot vs én latom a viragot) and the past might be good; adding the future would be great. A few lessons on formal vs. informal (ön vs. te) would be great too. On the other hand maybe the directions and directional postpositions could take less space. I also felt like vocabulary questions would have been more appropriate earlier in the tree rather than later where they currently are. Just my 2 cts after completing the tree.

Many thanks as well to the commenters on the individual lessons for their valuable insights. Maybe this could be collated and added as lesson notes before the individual lessons?

I will now be going back to my tree to keep it nice and golden :) Kösszönöm szepen!

August 21, 2016

34 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/staplesnout

It is a pity if they really don't pay much attention to the verbs and the past. Remembering all these endings is the most nasty thing in Hungarian. And no future - really?

August 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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It's still in beta, I'm hoping they will add more blocks in future based on feedback - the existing tree is already great, it can't have been easy to add a non-Indo-European language to Duo in the first place.

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/staplesnout

Turkish is a non-Indo-European language too, but the tree has the Future skill and does not have so many unnatural sentences :) I mean, I am grateful for the course, but its weak points cannot be explained and excused by the peculiarities of the language only. Let us hope that the creators read our feedback.

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I have finished my Turkish tree too and love that course to bits - it's well constructed, the grammar notes are spot on and it is full of humour too. Hats off to the Turkish team.

This said they are all unpaid volunteers - the Hungarian team also had a high turnover. We might be expecting a bit much. I'm hoping the course will improve, also for the sake of those who haven't yet had a taste of Hungarian, but what we already have is already a big achievement. I wouldn't want bad feedback to put people off starting a new course.

August 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/staplesnout

Thanks for your balanced opinion.

August 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/-BellaLuna-

Great job on your tree!

August 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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thank you!

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Katred2

Congratulations! I'm a little intimidated still by Hungarian, so I'm impressed to see someone get through the whole tree

August 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I studied it for a bit several years ago, it definitely helped to have some notions of grammar and vocabulary beforehand - I also found the comments on the actual lessons to be very helpful. Good luck!

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Olja.
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Impressive :) Congratulations!!!

August 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I'm impressed at your sheer number of level 25s! Thank you :)

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/mizinamo

Congratulations for the patience you had to make it all the way through the tree!

I hope you also learned some Hunglish along the way :)

August 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I enjoyed getting reacquainted with Hungarian and am grateful to the Duo team who made it happen :)

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ

Congrats! I'm about halfway through, so I'm not far behind!

August 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Thank you!

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ

You're welcome! Impressive streak by the way!

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Yours isn't half bad either :)

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ

Thanks!

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Krisbaudi

Congratulations, I am impressed, that you went trough and said, that it is an easy language for you. Have a good time further with Hungarian and other languages. :-)

August 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Thank you, you too :)

August 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/PuertoRico_7213

wow amazing! Great job

August 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Thank you!

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/OrangeFruit

Congratulations! I have barely gotten past the first checkpoint, and although I am sure to finish the tree, I have decided to wait a year or two. It is a wonderful language and would be semi-useful in my unique situation, but I will wait.

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Thank you! There are a few bugs in the course still so waiting for a bit could well be for the best :)

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/OrangeFruit

Yeah, but I consider Hungarian to be very intimidating (I know, it's all a state of mind blah blah) so I'll just get Spanish, French, and Esperanto to level 25 and then I'll work on Hungarian. :)

August 29, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/King2E4

I am envious of anyone who has completed any tree on Duolingo. I haven't completed one, and I have been a member for about two and a half years now. However, I think I have just passed half way in my Spanish tree, so hopefully my Spanish tree will be almost complete before Christmas or just after the New Year.

Anyway, congratulations on your FIFTH tree!! Would you say you can read a book in those languages (I have heard that, once you have completed the Duolingo tree, you can read a book in that language)?

September 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Olja.
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"once you have completed the Duolingo tree, you can read a book in that language" - NO :) unfortunately.

September 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/King2E4

Well, it would depend on the book. I mean, the courses must teach you enough to understand most words in a book (that isn't too advanced), right? :)

September 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Depends on the book! and on how much time you're willing to spend looking up words in a dictionary. Some e-readers allow you to look words up by touching them to save time too. I think switching to books is the perfect next step after Duo - after all if it wasn't challenging we wouldn't be learning ;)

Have you asked the Duo forums for book recommendations on the languages you're learning? There are some very knowledgeable people out there who could help.

September 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/King2E4

No, but that is a good suggestion.

Have you done that?

September 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I wasn't quick enough :) I found suggestions already there by scrolling old threads.

September 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/King2E4

At least you found something. :)

September 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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Congratulations on your streak! As long as you're learning and having fun you're doing it right - as I've rushed through it it only means I'm now having to go back to consolidate, it may not have been the wisest way to go about it.

Spanish isn't that different from English so you absolutely have a shot at reading books. I don't know Spanish so can't recommend any specific titles but there are usually plenty of "learner" books - books that have been simplified (with less vocabulary / in-built notes and grammar explanations). Children's books are also a good place to start, maybe your local library has something you could have a look at? Or if you're bored by lower reading levels try newspaper articles - they'll be more challenging but usually no longer than a few paragraphs, meaning investing the time to look up the words is still OK.

For Italian I jumped straight into Italian books (kid level first, still working my way up) - but Italian is very similar to my mother tongue so I had a head start. For Dutch I struggled more so I"m going through the Harry Potter books - I have read them all before and loved them so much the plot is still very familiar to me, so when I stumble on a Dutch sentence I can afford not to worry to much and still carry on reading as I get the wider meaning. For Esperanto I read stuff on the Esperanto wikipedia - but that's not a good example as it's such an easier language to learn.

For Turkish and Hungarian I struggle a lot more, mostly because the vocabulary is so different from the languages I already speak that I don't have much of a head start. Even a simple sentence, from a grammar perspective, can be difficult to me, as so many of its words will be unknown to me. I have a few children's books (second hand bookshops are a godsend!) but haven't made much headway (yet!).

Sorry for the long digression - long story short read anything that's easy enough for you to read while still being an enjoyable read. Practise makes perfect :)

September 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth517318

Hi Foudeb, just curious to ask how long did it take you to finish the Hungarian course?? Regards, Elizabeth.

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