Learning a new Language from a second Language
I am a native Arabic Speaker but i have a good English not so good to claim a native English perfect fluency but i traveled a lot and i can easily hold the conversation with many native English beside reading and writing Skills. Now the question is, if i'd like to learn Spanish or French. Is it good to use English as a starting point or you see that using your native language to learn a new language is better.? Thanks
I am a native English speaker. I learned Spanish to a relatively good level, and then decided to start learning French as a Spanish speaker. I knew that French would take up a lot of my time and I didn't want to completely neglect Spanish while I was learning French. It's worked out well for me.
Learning a third language from your second is called "laddering" and it's a common technique among polyglots. I think you will also find that there are more resources for learning Spanish as an English speaker. With French you could probably learn from English or Arabic, but why not try learning from English and see how you like it?
I am a native Arabic speaker too and I'm learning Spanish from English. It's working rather fine with me.
Very good 3houd, you are encouraging me to continue through the English interface
As Lrtward said, it is called "laddering" here.
I have done that a lot here on Duolingo, doing trees (Duolingo courses) not only from English and from Spanish (my two C1+ level languages), but also doing other target languages from French, from Italian, from Portuguese......
I like it very much, because you have to write a lot more in the "base" language of the course (than in the "target" language).
Learning a language from a second language is double beneficial, I think. Because you improve your fluency in both. After all you can install a Google translator plug in of your native language in your browser that can translate the phrase to your native language within the limits of Google translator, so you can have the phrase in 3 languages. I am a native Greek speaker and I do not have many options to use my native language in DL, except English.
Definitely go with English as your "native" language.
Just stop using Arabic for a while. Don't worry you'll never forget it. Studying a foreign language in your second or third language forces you to think in that language so in the end you are learning a new language and improving your fluency in your second/third language.
yes, you do not seem to have a lot of choices so it is a good starting point. I myself use the most courses from English though my native tongue is not available, it is working out well.
It really doesn't matter. Use whichever language you prefer to use. The only thing is not to get French and Spanish confused together. that happens with me with German and French.
Like you, I am not a native english speaker. I'm learning spanish from English & it is working fine for me. I would prefer to learn new language from my second language as that way I will have a revision of both.
I am planning to learn french as well, but i preferred to start with Spanish as i found it quite easier than french.
I am using English to practice it aswell
Spanish-French are very similar but French shares some things with English too so I don't really care what i use
Do you think that this similarity between Spanish and French could get me confused when i start my French tree as i have seen many comments talking about that kind of confusion when you study Spanish and French in parallel.
One thing that happens in the sentence comments is that people talk a lot about the language they know instead of the language that they are learning. It's natural; they know their native language well and they bring up regional differences or discuss why words they like should have been in an accepted answer. Or sometimes they get bogged down in discussing native language nuances.
I wish I had tried this laddering from a non-native language much earlier. Now the comments are not in my native language so everything discussed in either language is a lot of help. No time is ever spent on things I already know well in my native language because it is not there on either side of the tree.
One more thing, the comments in a foreign language are much easier to follow than you might expect because the topic is a very specific sentence. It adds an amazing amount of clarity when you know exactly what people are trying to talk about.
gracias... creo que yo hare lo mismo ya que domine mas el idioma que estoy estudiando... si gustas agregame... y practicamos español o ingles que es la lengua que estoy estudiando...