"He drinks this wine."

Translation:Er trinkt diesen Wein.

February 4, 2013

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i really dont understand when to use "diese" or "diesen"...i have the same problem with "siene" and "sienen"


Look to http://www.deutschegrammatik20.de/pronomen/demonstrativpronomen-2/demonstrativpronomen/

diese is for nominative and accusative of feminine noun, diesen is for accusative of masculine. The chart for remembering

Case: maskulin – neutral – feminin – Plural

Nominativ: dieser – dieses – diese – diese

Akkusativ: diesen – dieses – diese – diese

Dativ: diesem – diesem – dieser – dieser

Genitiv: dieses – dieses – dieser – dieser

Or use this shorter chart

maskulin – neutral – feminin – Plural

Nominativ: r – s – e – e

Akkusativ: n – s – e – e

Dativ: m – m – r –r

Genitiv: s – s – r – r


I have no clue what you just said


You might think of words like 'dative' and 'accusative' as meaning 'indirect-' and 'direct-object'.
'Nominative' as 'subject'. 'Genitive' as 'possessive'. It gets weird when prepositions enter the picture, but in the beginning this will help you to make sense of most of the linguistic jargon people toss around.


Thanks for the plain English.


This helps me, thank you


Good explanation. Normally we learned as Nominative-Genitive-Accusative-Dative like der des dem den.


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Isn't the dativ plural form diesen, not dieser?

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You are correct, Dative Plural ends in "n".


And how do I know what Case am I using? (sorry, grammar is not my strong point)


Nominative is like answering questions "who is it" or "what is it". Accusative "who do I see" or "what do I see". Dative "who do I give it to". Genitive "who does it belong to".

Obviously it's not 100% accurate, but hopefully you'll get the picture.


Can you give example of these for cases with sentence?


Dativ plural is diesen not dieser ,that one is for genitiv


Unfortunately this app needs to do a better job of explaining stuff like this instead of just throwing words at the user.


if you log in to your account through the website and access the same lessons as on the mobile app, there are hints and tips explanations with each lesson...i have no clue why they dont fix the app to make the tips and hints lightbulb button available here as well.

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DL is very odd with where it focuses its priorities. Over the years I've been here I've seen them add clubs, costumes, language courses and get rid of those dumb hearts, but yet, still no tips for mobile...


If someone is doing something to a masculine object then whack an 'n'/'en' on the end. (Correct me if I'm wrong).


The problem that I am having is trying to learn what all those mean. What does dative, Accusative and genitive mean?!

  • 1699

This question is actually answered all the time in many other threads (and by this point we all should have seen them multiple times). Here's the short version:

Nominative = the subject of the sentence (The boy gives the apple to the girl)

Accusative = the direct object (The boy gives the apple to the girl)

Dative = the indirect object (The boy gives the apple to the girl)

Genitive can most easily be described in English as the "possessive" case (The boy's apple or The apple of the boy).

So for example with (The boy gives the apple to the girl) the boy = der Junge (nominative masculine), the apple = den Apfel (accusative masculine), and the girl would be dem Mädchen (dative neuter).


I'm gonna start a religion and you will be its main deity. The Grammar Deity

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Haha, hardly, but thank you. It's good to see my simple summary was helpful. :)


This definitely helped me out a bit, thank you!


Thanks for excellent teaching


Right? I wish that instead of just providing links, someone could offer explanations that make sense to someone who wants to learn without memorizing hundreds of charts.

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The problem is it mostly does come down to memorization. There are etymological reasons for why some case changes end in "n" and some in "s" and others in "r", etc. but it's not necessarily strictly "logical".

This is just how language works and morphs over time and there's no short three sentence summary for hundreds of years of history. Even these charts are just the base starting point because, like with any language, there are the rules and then there are the exceptions to those rules which can only really be learned by memory.


Why can't I use 'das?'


Das means that. There is a slight difference between "this" and "that". In the case of this sentence, both words would convey the same idea basically, however, that are not the same.


neither do I. and also with meine, ihre and some others that turn to meinen, ihren. So if someone knows why, please let us know. thanks


Ist Wein maskulin oder neutral?


"Wein" ist sehr viel ein männliches Wort.


It's funny that people speaking English go crazy about all these cases)) I can imagine how awful this system of endings looks) in Russian language, we have even 2 more cases, so german is quite ok for us)))) I have learnt german for several years now, but after any pause I forget everything... God give me some memory!


Why diesen not dieses?


What about Er trinkt das Wein or Er trinkt der Wein?


Why do we use accusative with trinke


The accusative case is used when there is a direct object of a verb. What is he drinking? This wine. "Wine/Wein" is the direct object of the verb "drink/trinke."


Yes i realized later that there was a "this" in the sentence :)


When can we use "der/die/das" as a demonstrative pronoun? Only in the nominative case?


When can we use "der/die/das" as a demonstrative pronoun? Only in the nominative case?


I thought the word "Wein" was not masculine. But it is. So if it is masculine, then accusative masculine will be den.. So the correct answer is diesen.


It is insane - every translation says that diese and diesen are one and the same...


Nein, "diese" ist für feminin Wörter aber "diesen" ist für akkusativ männliche Wörter und dativ Plural.


Confused on Case Nom. Akku. Dativ. Genitiv. What they are and how they change the sentence


The hint didnt even give 'diesen' as a hint :0(


None of my English classes in school taught using the terms dative, accusative, etc. We just used the common terms like indirect, direct, possessive....


I recommended Mikkel Thomas method to learn German alongside Duo. He's fantastic at explaining things! But buy the CD's not the mp3s off Amazon. The mp3s are a rip off.


Why can't "dieser" be used in here?

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