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"Ezek a kígyók csíkosak, azok pedig foltosak."
Translation:These snakes are striped, but those are spotted.
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'those ones' is not standard (formal) English. Standard is just 'those'. In other words, 'those' can be a pronoun as well as an adjective/determiner.
For example, compare:
1. Those ones over there are on sale.
2. Those over there are on sale.
You will hear 1 from time to time, but 2 is what is taught to and used by most speakers most of the time.
Not sure about that. "Those ones" is totally standard English, though colloquial.
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Lexico's entry has five examples with "ones" as a pronoun to refer to things, and fifteen with "ones" to refer to people. ( https://www.lexico.com/definition/one ) It is standard, not even colloquial. It may not be a good translation though, as it clarifies that they are also snakes rather than something else. I suspect the Hungarian does not do this . . .
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why is pedig used here? Isn't pedig used for opposition or contradiction and exclusion. I mean english sentence with but seems a bit clunky to me, that is not a way to use but (or but is not the word i would put here)
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I think 'whereas' works well here as a translation for 'pedig'. In any case, there is certainly nothing wrong with or weird about 'pedig' in the Hungarian sentence!
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One primary use of 'but" is to introduce contrasting sentences. See 1st definition here: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/but
------- flip out of the word bank and write it yourself . . .
Big 10 jun 19
Animals are usually "foltos": salamanders, cows, some cats... So foltos means uneven spots that is more likely to happen in nature. If a dress is foltos, it has some stains on it.
Pöttyös: a ball, a dress, a mug... In case of a pöttyös dress, think of polka dots. So here we have more regular, organized, man-made dots.
------- foltos = blotchy ; po:ttyo:s = (polka- ) dotted . . .
Big 15 oct 19
