"Nem mi énekelünk, hanem ők."
Translation:It is not us singing, but them.
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I think it would be better English to say : we are not singing but they are.
It should be an acceptable alternative. Their translation is ungrammatical English anyway. But maybe they are being fussy about using "who"? The translation should be something like: We are not singing but they are.
Not sure. It sounds like "Mi nem énekelünk, de ők igen."
Maybe without the "but"? - "We don't sing - they do".
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I got wrong answer on We are not singing but they are, is this correct?
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Miért 'us' és 'them'? Azok tárgy esetben vannak, nemde? Az angol mondatot valószínűleg én így fordítottam volna: "Nem minket énekel, hanem őket." Még ha ennek értelme nem is lenne. Főleg mert ki énekli, ha 'It' azaz semleges nem van az elején. Tehát ezt a példa mondadot egyáltalán nem értem.
------- bence sounds just as confused as we are . . .
btw, i prefer, "we're not singing, they are... " . . .
Big 2 may 18
Azért, mert az angolban nincs ilyen, hogy "tárgyeset". Azt mondják, hogy "It's me", nem azt, hogy "It's I", ugyanúgy, ahogy a mémben "me and the boys" van, nem "I and the boys". Nem tárgy - csak külső nézőpont.
As a short sentence, "It's me" works. As a short reply, "me and the boys" works. As parts of longer sentences, this varies with how those fragments qre employed. When the referents are objects, they work; as subjects, they do not. "It is us who/that sing..." does not work in English. I understand the translation is trying to emphasize that there is a comparison being made in Hungarian, but the translation is overcorrected. The English "we don't sing, but they do" is good enough.
Yes it is. They is the subject of the understood clause, "they are singing." On the other hand "... but them." is improper.
Okay - here is an observation.
Nem mi énekelunk, hanem ők. Mi is after nem because Mi is the focus of the sentence - Not "we", but "them".
whereas
Mi nem énekelunk, hanem beszélunk. The verb is after nem because that's what's being compared. We are not singing, but speaking.
Daniel640094 16 Why not, "It is not us who are singing, but them"?
5ReplyGive Lingot•2 years ago
It is not WE who are singing, but THEY (who are). Note the use of "we" and "they" instead of "us" and "them."
Patricia, you are exactly right. Nice to find someone else who knows English grammar.
-------- give it up, patricia. the use of the nominative, after the verb "to be", went away - in your infancy . . .
Big 20 dec 18
It's a pity that so many people speak a nob-grammatical language.
Yes, like using "you" for one person instead of the proper "thou", or saying "he gives" instead of the proper "he giveth".
(I assume you would never be caught dead doing any of that?)
"It is not we who are singing, but them" is an acceptable translation whose model has been used for other sentences and should be accepted here.
Very strange sentence. It seems wrong to me that all is plural but only the form of to be is in Singular
the form of "to be" belongs to "it", the same way as "it's me" isn't "it am I" or whatever