Initial thoughts on the course?
First of all, big congrats to the team on making it into Beta! Second, I was just curious what people's initial thoughts of the tree are? I love it so far, I just wish it had a Greek keyboard to type in some of the Greek letters. Any other thoughts?
I have been exposed to Greek prior to learning it on Duolingo. Fortunately, I can say that I have a bit of experience with learning it. On the downside of this, It is beginning to become exponentially harder for a native English speaker like myself. I am making sure to take an overwhelming amount of notes to improve my learning of the course. I'm glad people other than myself are finding Greek interesting!
I started on Duo three years ago doing German and took notes by hand. It took too long and was difficult to organize. Then I found Quizlet and use it for everything. (No, I'm not on commission :)) There are other sites but I was satisfied with this so didn't even try any others.
I haven't done much yet, obviously, but I like it so far. I like the TTS voice and the fact that there is audio for all the words. I like the long, multi-part into skill.
I installed the Greek keyboard so that I can advance a little further, so will do that today.
It may be a long journey, but this is one tree I am likely to finish one day. (Hey, if I can finish Russian, I can finish Greek, right!)
I'll likely post a better comment about the Greek tree somewhere down the line when I have something more intelligent to report, but I just wanted to check in and thank the Greek team for all their work and let them know I appreciate the opportunity to learn some Greek the Duolingo way!
I cannot respond on behalf on Duolingo for any of their decisions, but here is my opinion:
The TTS voice offers some advantages:
You get "normal" and "slow" playback (with the real human voice recordings, you're stuck with the one speed).
You can hear each individual work in a sentence pronounced, over and over if you want (with the real human voice recordings, you need to hear the entire sentence just to get the one word you might want to hear again).
Finally, you get audio for every sentence. With the human voice recordings, there are a lot of words and sentences that don't have recordings. In the early stages when you're just learning and can't hear the sentences, it's hard to know how they sound and hard to remember them.
I simply find the TTS clearer and easier to understand than the recordings, although, I admit, there are occasional problems with the TTS pronunciations.
Esperanto is the only tree I've completed that didn't have TTS. I've given up on a few duolingo language courses (at least for new) mainly because they have live recordings instead of TTS.
Thank you very much for weighing in. Being Greek your views will be of great help. Thank you for the tip on ''τσ" και "τζ". I'll get on it now. And you know we'd be very grateful for any other information, observations etc you could share. Best of luck with the German.
I am really enjoying the Greek course. It is very good. However, when I do the exercises, I spend too much time switching my keyboard from Greek to English. I would learn faster if the responses were grouped, half Greek, then half English. Instead of alternating languages and constantly changing the alphabet.
I think it is very good. Am being tripped up by odd spelling and words in some cases e.g. "forty" is taken as a wrong answer it insists on "fourty". At first i thought that might be the American spelling but having looked it up it doesn't seem to be the case. Also won't accept "sitting room" it must be living room so is clearly posh :-) But it is a very good course and congrats to the team.
Oh, please let us know on the "Report a problem" option, or here what you've found odd. And if you give some directions (subject, unit e.g.) it will help us find it quickly so another learned doesn't get held up. We are dedicated to including both American and British spelling but have slipped up a few times. And yes, I think we need both "sitting room" and "living room". Of course, we are ever so posh, but we also want to be fair. Thanks for your input and the congrats.
Doing some research I've found that the consensus is that "forty" is the way to go with "fourty" being arcahic. Just two of the better sites:>www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/forty and> www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forty
BE/AE most sides covered. So I'll go back and correct it. Do you recall where it was?
Really enjoying (/ obsessed with) the Greek course - thanks so much to the volunteers who made it for all the hours you put in! So far (I've only been at it for a day and a half) I'm really appreciating the grammar, vocab and cultural notes - like the mini-intro to Greek cuisine in the food bit. This is already looking like a high-quality course. I've been eagerly waiting for months for this course and what I have in front of me now makes it all worthwhile. Thanks again!
I've also been using Michel Thomas (finished it but re-listening to the mp3s for reinforcement and memory) and Glossika (so awesome, do check it out), which are great for speaking and listening (an element of language learning Duo in general is weaker on because of being primarily text-based). What I am finding is that the Duo course is picking up on and making me tighten up all the bits and pieces I've been lazy on and haven't listened to properly, because on Duo you have to feed back into it in text. So I'm justifying my obsession with this course because it really is complimenting my more audio-focused study using Michel Thomas and Glossika.
I'm liking the ourse after my first terrible try. It takes some getting used to. Someone wrote te tip about finding all the vocabulary in list frm on the 'school' site which has been a great help. Also so eone lse mentioned to 'tips' at the start of a unit if you scroll down you find vocab and grammar help. Lastly I didn't seeaguide to dipthongs which a Greek friend kindly wrote out for me. We have these vowels doples: (el tono always enter in the second letter of the two) αι (we say ε) example αίθουσα (éthusa) hall ει (we say ι) example εικόνα (ikóna) picture οι (we say ι) example οικογένεια (ikogénia) family ευ (we say εφ) example ευχαριστώ (efcharistó) thanks ου (we say u) example ουρανός (urano's) = sky
It is pretty simple to switch your keyboard input language to Greek. In Windows 10: click the 3 letters in the tray (lower right, ENG if you use an English keyboard layout, DEU if it's German and so on) --> "Language preferences" --> "Add a language" --> choose Greek. It is simple to use as the Greek layout mostly corresponds to the qwerty-layout used for e.g. English. To help you with the little differences, use the On-Screen Keyboard available in Windows. You can easily switch between Greek and your regular keyboard layout with alt+shift. I am still looking for a decent way to type in Russian though...
Here is a virtual keyboard I even use sometimes although I have a dual keyboard on my pc. I hope you like it.
Online keyboard - lexilogos and with a click there are several dictionaries available on the same link. There are others. Just go to our Modern Greek Resouce page.
Don't forget that Duolingo is a free site with finite resources, I for one would prefer to have access to a Greek course with no on screen keyboard than no Greek course at all. Besides, if we are really going to learn a language, then being able to use a full keyboard with the letters in their proper positions strikes me as being part of the learning process.
By the way if you have access to an android tablet, you can install a variety of keyboards which will swap instantly from Roman to Greek at the touch of a button. I use Google keyboard personally but there are a very large number of others available.