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"Az idős kiáll az ajtó elé és kiabál."

Translation:The old woman stands outside the door and yells.

September 2, 2016

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Benjiii1989

Standing does not imply movement, so how come its not "(...) az ajtó elött" ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jsiehler

Mizinamo is right; when you have directional prefixes on áll (like odaáll, beáll, kiáll and so on) you usually think of it as "moves to a standing position somewhere". There's not one uniform way to express that in English, so you usually have to think idiomatically what will be the best way to translate it. (If you do find the best way to translate it, it probably won't be the way that's accepted here; such is life.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

The English word "stand" does not imply movement but the Hungarian áll is not (necessarily) 1:1 the same :) Especially in prefixed forms such as kiáll.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Harry_the_Hyrax

Aside from the -ki suffix, "elé" also indicates movement, no?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dqJacO

"the old woman goes and stands out in front of the door and shouts"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bnyugat

Why isn't kiabal = shout out, given that ki prefix?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

It's not a prefix in this word. (At least according to the etymoloy in Wiktionary.)

The ultimate root is apparently something like kiál which comes from the sound of a shout.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jsiehler

Definitely if you want to amuse some Hungarians with your non-Hungarianness then saying Ne abálj ki' for "don't shout" will do the job.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bnyugat

So to say 'shout out' I'd have to say kikiabal?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vvsey

Yup, you got it!

  • Kikiabál
  • Bekiabál
  • Ki kiabál ki?
  • Ki az, aki bekiabál?
  • Becky, neki be ne kiabálj!

You are welcome to translate them. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vvsey

Close enough. :)

Ki az, aki bekiabál? - Who is that person who shouts in?
Becky, neki be ne kiabálj! - Becky, don't you dare shout in to him. Or, do not shout in to/for him.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krisbaudi

Shout out Shout in/into Who shouts out out/outside? Becky, don't shout him out inside??? That is very interesting, thank you


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krisbaudi

Why is my answer wrong: The elderly woman is standing outside in front of the door and shouts.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jsiehler

It's OK, but it sounds peculiar in English to mix tenses like that. The simple present "stands outside in front of the door and shouts" would be good. The progressive "is standing outside in front of the door and shouting" would also be good. Mixing the two sounds awkward.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krisbaudi

Köszi :-) Outside was marked wrong by Duo and it wanted only out, which seems strange to me.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingpeck

In front of not outside right?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrrzyV

No. Stands outside would be kint áll. She goes outside [in a standing position but you don't have to say that in English]. Thanks.

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