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When to use genitive?

Roihu7
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Hello all, Just a quick question. I've been working on the genitive section and I am not sure when to actually use it. Also, when we say that someone does not have something, for example, "у нас нет сока" (we do not have juice), are we not supposed to use есть?

Thanks

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/frere_etienne
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When we say that someone does not have something, we use word нет with genitive. Common construction is "y |someone in genitive| нет |something in genitive|": у него (него - genitive of он) нет кошки (кошки - genitive of кошка) - he does not have a cat, у девочки (genitive of девочка) нет телефона (genitive of phone) - a girl does not have a phone. If we say about places, locations etc. (not about persons or animals), we use another construction: в комнате (prepositional of комната) нет стола (genitive of стол) - there is no table in a room, на дереве (prepositional of дерево) нет листьев (plural genitive of лист) - there are no leaves on a tree. So, we see that genitive is being used after нет.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AxeITheWheel

The есть is just left out if you don't need to express the existence of something. For example, you would use it when asking if someone has a car, as the existence of the car is what is important. Telling someone they have beautiful eyes, however, you wouldn't use есть. It's obvious the person has eyes, and it doesn't need to be stressed. When you are saying you don't have something, as in your example, you leave out the есть simply because the sentence is always detailing your lack of possession. Note: I'm no Russian pro, and this is just my understanding of the use. Thanks )) (hope i'm not wrong)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nkomarik

to answer your second question, you don't use есть, if you are talking about not having/owning something. so examples will be: у меня есть кошка - у меня нет кошки. У тебя есть молоко - у тебя нет молока, у мамы есть сумка - у мамы нет сумки. (note the ending of the noun changes into a genitive case.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jhtv55
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In sentences like "у нас нет сока" the word нет is really a shortened form of writing "не есть" (there is not), which is why we don't need to write in the есть. This sounds and looks just the same as the word нет meaning 'no'.

2 years ago