https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

How to chose a book from Portugal.

Advice on Books to read .. Good books ... And yet there must be brilliant books from Portugal to read.

Poland as Conrad

Russia as Dostojewsky

Italy has Umberto Eco

what is the name of the writer that would inspire us to read or to learn Portuguese so as to read it in the Original

Now reading time is precious. Don't waste it. Reading bad books, or books that are wrong for a certain time in your life, can dangerously turn you off the activity altogether

. Books do not have to be read from cover to cover. The two most well kept secrets are a) the table of contents and b) the index. Okay so that trick really only works for non-fiction.

There is another advantage to finishing books you don't enjoy: being able to write informed reviews of them and recommending certain others not read them

Sometimes we are spoilt for choice. So many books to choose from. Like a table laden with more food than we can eat

You won't get anywhere if you don't stretch yourself occasionally. The simple solution is to have two books on the go - one 'serious' and one for light relief.

Reading time is precious. Don't waste it. Chose a book from Portugal ... but which one to decide

February 9, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/ell-no

Portugal has José Saramago. Winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1998.

I just love him. Reading Saramago in Portuguese is part of my motivation for learning the language (but not the only reason).

I just checked Amazon.com and they sell his books in English, some of them in Portuguese, and quite a few as Kindle editions. Like "ontalor" with his ereader, I always travel with my Kindle.

When I get to the bottom of my Portuguese tree, I will award myself lots of reading sessions with "As pequenas memorias". It might not be his best work, but it is relatively short, and I have just read it in English, to facilitate my journey through the Portuguese edition.

Good lukc, all you other lovers of literature out there!

February 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

Thank you this will be on my list to search for and read

I must give you some lingots for your lovely response

Jose Saramago I will mention in the bookshops in Glasgow next week as I try to buy

all the best thank you

February 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ccorreia310

Portugal has Luis Vaz de Camões (with 'Os Lusíadas'), Eça de Queiroz (with 'Os Maias') and José Saramago (with 'Memorial do Convento'). There others such as Almeida Garrett (with 'Frei luis de Sousa') and Padre Antonio Vieira (with Sermaos aos peixes)

Before you read any of these books and i advise you to read something about Portugal's history.

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

Portugal has such a fascinating history... Especially its colonial presence throughout the world... Goa to Macau without even its impression on South America..

So I will read more History before embarking on any of your kind suggestions..

I give you some Lingots as a token of gratitude and an acknowledgement of your generous literary knowledge

thank you very much

all the best Jack

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ccorreia310

Even if i don't still have any idea what is a Lingots, you can send it to me. hahah I'm new here and do know very much about duolingo. But Thank you!

I advise to start with 'Frei Luis de Sousa' because it's shorter and it's like a theatre play. And guess what... they have a movie, which is very good and the same as the book.

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

I sent you ten lingots which you can add to the ones you already have If you click on the shop you can see what you can buy there.

Frei Luis de Sousa sounds like a good start

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ccorreia310

Thank you!

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

thanks are to you

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ricardomfe

Eça de Queiroz, Sophia de Mello Breyner Andresen, Miguel Torga, José Saramago, Fernando Pessoa, Luís Vaz de Camões, Almeida Garrret, Gil Vicente, Florbela Espanca etc, etc Are some of the names that I hear at school. I hope this helps. Names like Camões, Garrret and Vicente wrote in a very old portuguese that even I don't understand, it was just to you to know them. They are still very important in our culture and history.

In a quick search I found this: http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/13584.Livros_Portugueses_O_que_j_li_

February 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

thank you this is just what I was wanting here is a Lingot and I will let you know what I have read or found out all the best Jack

February 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl

Luís Vaz de Camões has good poetry. os lusiadas might be his most famous and its quite enjoyable. paulo coelho who wrote the alchemist is also good. i recommend that book to read in the original portugues

February 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

Paulo Coelho I have in Polish thanks for the recommendation on the poetry often you can get in both two languages so that would be wonderful.. ... Thanks and so a few Lingots in gratitude of a greatdirection to take ,,, all the best Jack

February 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl

Luís Vaz de Camões has good poetry. os lusiadas might be his most famous and its quite enjoyable. paulo coelho who wrote the alchemist is also good. i recommend that book to read in the original portugues

February 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Such wise ideas and so well expressed. Thank you, it's a reminder to get off the treadmill and do some mental exercised.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

Gambler by Dostojewski a few pages on a Lazy Sunday Afternoon will be my pleasure today

A wee lingot for you ... all the best

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Great choice I think. Enjoy. And thanks for the lingot.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

I like your solution to bring two books on the go. But since I bought my ereader a few months ago I normally have about 70 on me, with plenty of room for more. I am absolutely in love with my reader. And I try to read books in foreign languages most of the time. It's my favorite way to learn them.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

It is wonderful that you appreciate the ereader .. I do not have one but considering that I am always on the go it would be helpful to have .. A lingot for your hoard as it inspires me to get one eventually .. perhaps when then they are cheaper... to be a canny Scot ... all the best Jack

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Neither do I have an ereader but I find Librivox fabulous. I download to an MP3 and use it when I'm out walking or doing household chores. Of course you can only get books that are in the Public Domain. But there are a lot of great oldies.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

I do listen to books from the library ... The serious brain injury meant reading difficult to understand ... I still bought the Guardian newspaper each day but was unable to process the words .. it was indeed a cognitive challenge.. I now save BBC radio programmes and books from the library and listen to them whilst walking in the hills in Scotland or down shopping in Glasgow..

Thank you for the sharing which I am sure could influence others to do likewise since it is cheaper to gain from the library rather than buying a book just to listen once...

all the best

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

LibriVox is completely free. Like your idea about radio programs I'll see about that. Be well.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

Thanks! The ereader I got was actually a very cheap model that had just been discontinued and was on clearance, so I got it for about $30 USD. I thought it'd be a good way to see if I enjoyed having an ereader, and I love it, so I'm willing to invest more for a good one when I can.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

great advice .. I will keep my eye open and I will have a look in the shops in Greenock and Glasgow when it is not so windy to cross the clyde on the ferry .... a little bit of wind here on the West coast of Britain

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/espi731

I do like books. When I was a kid (around 8) I used to read 3 children magazines a week. In the past 10 years I've read a lot of novels the last of which was "Blindness" by José Saramago which I like but sadly it's been almost 2 years that I don't read novels anymore since I don't have that much time and determination for it. But instead I read a monthly magazine called "Dastan" (= Story) which is especially aimed to bring literature to public audience and is filled with quality short stories from well known as well as Iranian writers and also has other parts like personal experiences about a certain subject or exploring old Persian literature a little. Also recently I've bought several satire poem books written by contemporary Persian poets which I enjoyed a lot. Most Persians are literature fans by nature!

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

That is lovely to hear ...

literature via magazines was popular in the nineteenth century

Charles dickens started his career writing instalments in magazines

likewise Sherlock started and continued in parts in newspapers.

Recently last year ... Alexander MacCall Smith do they same in The Scotsman, ( A Scottish Newspaper) with they help from readers as to how the story would progress

I think it was then published in a novel form as a book "44 Scotland Street"

Thank you for mentioning about Persian Culture and inspires me to find out more about Dastan..

Here is a Lingot for such a lovely posting..

All the best from Jack

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AbraxunsIllusion

I love reading! It's one of my favorite activities!

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

great "a chore" what does that word mean ...? where did it come from ? Is "chore" a loan word or was created in Britain or was it started in USA ... how does it differ in its usage in America from here in Europe .... thanks for posting something that gets me thinking ... all the best and here is a Lingot

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AbraxunsIllusion

I have no Idea why I said chores. I guess I was thinking of how I have so many chores to do. I meant "activity". Edited. Stupid mistake, now, I must go to my chores, which do not include reading. Thanks for the lingot :D

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

you make me laugh ..... have you had a wee look at the OED and discovered any answers to the teasing questions I posted towards your direction ..... Miaow

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

@I_AM_THE_DOCTOR Phew sigh of relief. Glad you spotted it. I didn't know how to bring it to your attention.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AbraxunsIllusion

;) I can't believe I typed that. I'm finished about now.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Nah, nothing to sweat over. You had seen chore on the thread and it popped out as you were typing. Wish I had a dime for every mistake I have made. Thanks for the lingot it's better than a dime it has meaning.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Happy Days: I found an online etymology dictionary. It is enchanting and I'll probably never get any chores done if I get started. Yup, "chore" is American. Here's the whole deal.

"chore (n.)" 1751, American English, variant of char, from Middle English cherre "odd job," from Old English cerr, cierr "turn, change, time, occasion, affair business." Chore, a corruption of char, is an English word, still used in many parts of England, as a char-man, a char-woman; but in America, it is perhaps confined to New England.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

you are brilliant I expected the doctor to come up with something but you get top points... ten lingots .. what does OED say out of curiosity

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

Your magnanimity (just found this, little did I know how soon I'd get to use it) is greatly appreciated. I don't have a subscription to OED but my over weight Webster's says the same. Many thanks for your generosity and for starting up this thread.

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

you are welcome ..... along with Persian culture I should look out for a Webster ... all the best

February 9, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

I personally recommend Readlang (A Chrome extension) for assistance with reading.

While I am reading something online, I can click on a word if I don't know the definition. A general definition pops up (about as reliable as Duobot. So, it is good for getting a general sense of a word.) I can also highlight a phrase, up to 8 words long for translation. It also stores words and phrases into a spaced repetition flash card type set up. I can also upload what i'm reading into my Readlang library and it will tell me how difficult it is (like A3, C1 etc.). I'm still learning how to use it, so I'm not sure of all of the features yet. But those are the features I use most often right now. :)

In addition, if you enjoy fanficiton, www.fanfiction.net has a filter you can set so that the results only return those fanfictions written in the language you want. ^_^

@jackelliot,

I like the suggestion to read the table of contents and index. I hadn't thought of that!

February 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16

I am really looking forward to "Readlang" sounds like just what I need. Many thanks. I'll also read "fanfiction", too. Thank you.

February 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/_-C1-_

Beautiful, Jack. I agree with you completely; and I love reading.

February 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

The posts from everybody else are some much better and they need re-reading

Thank you for your post and here is a Lingot

February 10, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/_-C1-_

Gracias

February 11, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Caversham

@jackelliot - I suspect you have discovered the secret of how to extend the 24-hour day to at least 36. Looking at your daily/weekly Duolingo output, how do you find time to also read and conduct this online correspondence? Btw. I assume you know about BBCiPlayer where you can listen to any radio programmes (R4Extra has some intelligent stuff) you might have missed.

February 15, 2014
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