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"My house is between these houses."

Translation:Mein Haus ist zwischen diesen Häusern.

February 5, 2013



Why isnt it "dieser häuser"?


First off, obey the capitalization rules—Häuser, not häuser.

Second, to answer your question: Because zwischen is used, you have to make what your house is between (these houses) into the dative case. The dative plural of Haus is Häusern (and dative plural of dieser is diesen). Hence, zwischen diesen Häusern.

I agree that it's kind of crappy Duolingo requires you to know this to get your questions right before even introducing the concept of inflecting nouns in anything besides plurality.


Agreed - I'm happy to learn this stuff, but I feel like a lot of the time, Duolingo expects me to know things before marking me on them. And then I lose hearts. :(


Don't feel bad for loosing hearts. It's the best way to learn something and remember it a longer time. I think that this is the key feature of Duolingo: learn by trying.


A recent study shows that people learn the best if they get about 15 % of their answers wrong at first. If the percentage is a lot higher, it's probably not a good way to learn.


That makes me feel better about being wrong :D


Yeah, and I pay for this too! (::rolls eyes::) oh, six years later and we don't lose heart(s) anymore, except in the real sense... :-( To work so hard, and then run into a section like this.... (sigh) so sad.


You should use more tools


That was an exceedingly well explained response. Thank you.


Is the dative case always used after zwischen or are there exceptions?


"Zwischen" is one of several "dual" prepositions that take either the dative or the accusative depending on meaning. The dative version is static - whatever action is going on between the nouns in question, it's there for the whole sentence. The accusative version is more dynamic - the action starts out not between the nouns, and then moves between them. So if you're standing between two houses, you would say "Ich stehe zwischen den Häusern." But if you're trying to avoid being seen and suddenly duck between two houses, you say "Ich ducke zwischen die Häuser". (Whereas "Ich ducke zwischen den Häusern" would mean you started out standing between the houses and then suddenly decided to duck..)


I thought "zwischen" can be either dative or accusative. I'm confused now. Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)


It can, but it changes the meaning. If you are standing between two houses, then you use dative. If you quickly duck between two houses, then you use accusative. The difference between dative and accusative in these cases is always motion/change: if the preposition applies throughout the action described by the sentence, use dative.. but if the action includes a change that causes the preposition to start applying (you weren't between the houses, but now you are), then use the accusative. This "accusative of motion" is a recurring bit of grammar across many languages, including Latin.


Is this only for the German course? Or does this Phenomenon happen in other Duo Trees?


For plural nouns in the dative case, all nouns which do not already have an -n or -s ending add -n. a) die Kinder, die Kinder, den Kindern, der Kinder b) die Frauen, die Frauen, den Frauen, der Frauen


how do you tell when zwischen is Akkusativ and when Dativ? I find it difficult to tell with two-way prepositions ...


The house is located (not moving) between the houses, so dative is used. If it was "The cat is running between the houses" then you would use accusative.


I find it very discouraging to keep being introduced to new concepts by being given an exercise without the basics to tackle it. We do not put skates on infants who are learning to walk or issue "War and Peace" as primary school books.


After seeing Jungen and Häusern, I'm kind of wondering if there's a special rule for these nouns that are declined this way in the dative plural.


You always add an 'n' at the end of german dative plural nouns if possible


This is called the "N-Deklination" in German grammar. It applies only to masculine nouns, and then only to those "weak" nouns that change their ending depending on the case, e.g. "der Mensch" in the four cases: der Mensch, den Menschen, dem Menschen, des Menschen. I don't fully understand the logic behind it, but there's a good overview here:



And I forgot to mention that there is just one non-masculine noun to which this rule applies: the word on this sentence, "das Haus." With German grammar, there's always a complication!


Thanks dondragmer. You answered my question


What will "Mein Haus ist zwischen diese Häuse" mean?


It seems that the speaker is looking at three houses, and saying his is the middle house. But, it's probably just a sentence to see if we give diese the correct ending, or testing our understanding of zwischen, or the spelling in German for the plural of "House". I depends on what section this lesson was in. ;-)


Is it only my Duo or is anyone else is experiencing the total slide in when you're typing and you can't see your text unles you tap on back? :/


Why Hausern, rather than Hauser

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