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"On souhaite des frites."

Translation:We wish for fries.

February 5, 2013



La traduction n'est pas vraiment appropriée. On devrait plutôt dire "On aimerait" des frites. Souhaiter c'est plus pour un voeux ou une demande qui nous est chère, pas pour de simples frites.


Merci, I thought as much.


I don't understand the difference between: "On souhaite des frites" and "Nous souhaitons des frites"


The pronoun "on" (one) is a more casual way of saying we. "On souhaite des frites (One wishes for fries)" is often understood as "We wish for fries." I see it as a more detached, abstract way of talking about oneself.


"Nous" means "we" and is the proper choice.

"On" means "one" (derives from Latin "homo" for "human"), but it's also used in informal speech in place of "nous".

English use of "one" as a 'passive agent' derives from French "on" (as in "... but whether one ought to comply is a different matter.").


How can you get something right if you have never seen the verb before in the lessons?


By the method used here: trial and error.


Why is "We wish some fries." incorrect?


English speakers just don't say it that way. You can wish for some fries (though that sounds a bit stilted) or you can wish that you had some fries (a more natural way of expressing the same idea) but you cannot say "we wish some fries."


I really like the word 'on' (one) and wish we used it more in the states. Rather we use 'guys' In France 'on parle' here 'youse guys'.


Here, in Australia, using "one" is considered as something only the British upper classes say and would be embarrassing. We use either "someone" or change to the plural "we". For example, "one doesn't do that" becomes "We don't do that". Australians like to be direct about what one does or doesn't do in polite company. (Now there is subtle nuance for you!)


We don't really make that distinction in the States. We're much more likely to replace "one" with "you" or "we" in informal speech, and using "one" does have somewhat of an educated tone to it, but it doesn't sound particularly elitist, and in writing it is what... one would use.


Okay, but does one ever wish for fries in Oz?


The long thin slicing of potatoes for frying only appeared in Australia during the 1960s with the first American fast food restaurants. Traditionally we have had the short cut pototoes fried as 'chips' as in the British 'fish and chips'. Except in the chains, chips are the norm. The American cut is called 'julienne' in cooking, 'string' when bought frozen from supermarkets or 'straw' when used in a packet of crisps. A good discussion of the etymology of French fries is at http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-fre2.htm. 'Wish' would be used only if the chances if getting them were unlikely such as being marooned on an uninhabited island.


I'm Australian and agree that we don't say "we wish for fries".

We might say "we wish we had (hot) chips", to express regret at not having them at that moment, but if we're expressing a desire to have them, we'd probably say "we'd like (some) chips", or "we want (some) chips".

(This comment for those wondering what Aussies do say, and I realise this may not be many of you! Also, sometimes we say "some", but it's just as common to leave it out.)

Australians aren't renowned for being oblique in their conversational styles.


Does this sentence make sence?


I wrote, "We are wishing for French fries," but Duo rejected it, supplying an answer of We are hoping for French fries. I know a subtle distinction can exist between the three forms of the present indicative in French, but I thought surely "are wishing" was as idiomatic as "wish" here.


Duo rejected this today as well. I agree... "we are wishing for" and "we wish for" are both present tense and should be accepted.


Is the pronunciation here correct? Souhaite is pronounced 'sweat' to me and really threw me off. Is that normal?


Yes, it is pronounced "Sue-et," pretty close to "sweat."


Well you won't get any!


DL accepted "We would like fries."


"We are wishing for fries" was not accepted, saying it should be "We are hoping for fries".


This sentence sounded like a Duoism so I tried "We would like some chips" and behold, it was accepted. Do French people really "souhaiter" a bag of chips? The structure seems very elevated. "Oh!" said the Queen. "One could wish for a bag of chips, just like what they do down the East End". Sighs wistfully.


Shouldn't 'desire' be accepted as synonymous to 'wish for'?


This sentence is a direct translation of souhaite and doesnt have same meaning in English. It should be craving (which indicates appetite, desire for food) instead of wish or hope.

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