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  5. "נפרדנו."


Translation:We split up.

September 11, 2016


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Sometimes Nifal can be active, for example להיכנס (to enter) is active. נפרדנו 'means 'we separated I think הופרדנו would be 'we were separated'.


מעניין, תודה על התובנה.


I previously learned this verb to mean "to say goodbye" in contexts where you're not splitting up forever. Is this wrong?


You are correct. "להיפרד" also means to say goodbye.


We were separated

Isn't that a good translation?


No, because your sentence is in passive form. This sentence is active form.


Nif'al is the passive form, right? Yes I know they English sentence they propose is active, but Nif'al should be passive. If not, how would you say "separated" in Hebrew?


I tried to google your question, and perhaps you may be right actually, "נפרדנו" is the best translation of "separated". I don't have a clear answer, I can just tell you how it sounds to me as a native speaker: "נפרדנו" means that we were together until at some point we decided to split up. In Hebrew we also use "נפרדנו" as "we broke up" (we were in romantic relationship, and now we don't anymore). "We were separated" sounds like we didn't have any connection for a long period of time, and maybe somebody forced us to be separated. You can say this even about two people that didn't even knew each other at the time.


I see where you're coming from. The difference is really small, but I just need to know if I can use that word in a passive sense. Technically, if two people decided to separate, they were separated. More context would bear out whether they did it or someone else did. As far as I can tell, you say that Israelis use this word in an active sense, but can it also be passive?

My guess is that it is passive because it is nif'al, but as all languages do, Hebrew changed as people used the word in an active way.

Just a guess.

Thanks for you help by the way, you have been very helpful on more than one occasion.


Your guess maybe right. There are more verbs like that in נפעל, but most are passive as they should.


Excellent analysis. Thanks for the deep thinking. My hypothesis is that many words originated in one way but evolved to another over time. For example, some of the nif'als taking on a more active use today.


Would "We separated" be correct?

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