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https://www.duolingo.com/Gato_gordo

One, very small, complaint

I am new to Duolingo, and am enjoying learning Spanish. This is something I've wanted to do for many years, and now that I have more free time (I'm retired), I'm doing it. I only began a little less than 2 weeks ago, but I do a little each day, and the lessons are very enjoyable. However, I found the inclusion of the "Idioms and Proverbs" lesson, near the beginning of the course, to be not at all helpful. For one thing, I could never remember all those phrases, and at my present level, I'm just starting to put together simple sentences. I would think that one would have to be at a fairly high level to be able to use idiomatic phrases correctly in conversation. Once I reach a certain level of fluency, I would very much appreciate learning idioms and colloquialisms; but at my very basic current level, I don't find them helpful.

4 years ago

22 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/nihowdy

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about the bonus skills. They're not as refined as the other lessons (simply because they are very new) and feel a little bit removed from the rest of the tree. I've also purchased Flirting, and while that's been fun to learn, they also don't stick in my head or would be very helpful to me. So don't worry about it, you'll learn just fine :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GregHullender
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Yes, the other bonus lesson, "Flirting," isn't much better. They're of possible interest after you've finished the tree, but (speaking as someone who has finished the Spanish tree), even that's debatable.

I think Duolingo would do better to offer bonus lessons that expand vocabulary in different areas of interest. E.g. a set of restaurant vocabulary (never be at a loss for words in a restaurant), automotive vocabulary (planning to drive a car abroad), or any of the sorts of specialized words and phrases that one expects to find in a Berlitz or other phrasebook. Heck, I might even pay actual money for that--never mind Lingots.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/killary45
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There is a saying that goes - if the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.

Duo has one brilliant "tool" and is the best innovation I have seen on the internet to help those learning languages. But this "tool" does not meet every need in language learning, and there are lots of parts of the learning process that are not really helped by Duo. Among them is the way that it deals with idioms. They should be introduced and explained one a time as they come up naturally when the vocabulary, verb forms and grammar involved in understanding them arises in the course.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeeDeeBug

I agree Gato_gordo. I DO appreciate being offered the opportunity, but I thought they would be the kind of idioms used in everyday speech (such as "tengo frio" or "me gusta"). These were more proverbs than idioms. I did like the Christmas bonus skill and I hope it will return for all of you who missed it in time for Christmas next year. Since I completed it, it is still on my tree for practice. I have decided to forego the Valentine one. However, I hope we will also see Bonus Skills for other major world holidays and possibly for major events like World Cup Soccer or the Olympics.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/killary45
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I agree with DeeDeeBug. An idiom is any expression that you do not translate literally in order to get the correct meaning. They include sayings and proverbs, but the most important ones are the very frequently used phrases such as "hasta la vista". When learners meet common phrases such as that for the first time it helps if we are told both the literal translation and the usual meaning. Just piling a lot of proverbs together in one lesson is a poor strategy for learning, since they are very unlikely to stick in the memory.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Topolski

Yep. That was a really hard course, and I don't remember anything from it, either. I basically guessed until I completed it. I do agree.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dkenneth

I bought the lesson, but I won't do it until my Spanish is better because I tried the lesson and I just ended up yelling at my computer.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NaroniaSonia
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Same as me. I don't think it felt anything, though.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/psionpete
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There used to be another bonus skill which came before idioms (it was call Christmas) but for some reason it has been removed from the shop. I bought it but as yet I hav'nt done it but I would guess that it should be easier than idioms.

They are bonus skills so you do not have to do it until you choose to, unlike other skills where you have to complete them to unlock later stages, .

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NaroniaSonia
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It's probably because it isn't Christmas. It already passed.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sparrow2015

I definitely agree with this. It was quite difficult and hard to get through.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JasperMari
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I agree. Sometimes I will read a sentence and I have no idea what the sentence means. I know what all the words mean and translate too, but if I do it that way it sounds like nothing. They don't teach you these, and they expect you figure it out risking your lesson, even if you've been doing well at learning the things that are more your level.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kamalprescod

You have to by Idioms and Proverbs at the store, and they are not necessary if you want to move on They are just fun add-ons to do when you are ready. Why not come back to them when you are at a higher level :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeeDeeBug

Good suggestion.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/poppyizzie1

I am so pleased about your comment. I saw the idioms and after being pleased with myself at what I had learned so far it just completely threw me. I am easily put off and this did not help matters. In total agreement, needs to be removed asap.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/johnllock

I agree. I have it but it was way to hard at that level. I won't complete it until my skill level is higher.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryceJohnsonCHS

Many of my friends tried to do that part and ended up failing and getting really angry. Apparently the translations to English are extremely strange though there are some similarities

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/travellers2

perhaps a good way to learn, especially with idioms, is to, say, wait till it is raining then go out and use the appropriate phrase a few times with some Spanish speakers , (or find someone on the internet). after the third attempt, with luck it will have stuck in the memory, and if you make an error you can start an animal rescue centre!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KathleenAve

You just have to go back and study everyday lol I already speak spanish but i never learned to read or write in spanish. This is really helping me understand on how to write and spell :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LunaEricO5

Spanish skills LEVEL 10 Basics 1 Phrases Basics 2 Food Animals Flirting Idioms0/2 Possession Checkpoint passed Clothing Questions Present 1 Food 2 Family Sizes Household Occupation Time Adject. 1 Checkpoint passed

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LunaEricO5

Spanish skills LEVEL 10 Basics 1 Phrases Basics 2 Food Animals Flirting Idioms0/2 Possession Checkpoint passed Clothing Questions Present 1 Food 2 Family Sizes Household Occupation Time Adject. 1 Checkpoint passed

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LunaEricO5

Spanish skills LEVEL 10 Basics 1 Phrases Basics 2 Food Animals Flirting Idioms0/2 Possession Checkpoint passed Clothing Questions Present 1 Food 2 Family Sizes Household Occupation Time Adject. 1 Checkpoint passed

10 months ago