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"I like the shirt."
Translation:Μου αρέσει το πουκάμισο.
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Μ'αρέσει is standard Greek, not slang at all! Like "I'm" for "I am".
Edit: Apparently, the correct way to write it is with a space between the two words "Μ' αρέσει".
How important is the word order? I wrote Το πουκάμισο μου αρέσει and it was not accepted.
It's correct and added now! But note this should be το πουκάμισο μού αρέσει (with accented μού) to separate its meaning from "My shirt is liked"
I do not think that accent should be used since in Το πουκάμισο μου αρέσει, ΜΟΥ must belong to "αρέσει". Otherwise, if "moυ" is possessive we would write: **Το πουκάμισό μου". (Futhermore with the possessive "μου" we cannot continue with "αρέσει" without another "μου": Το πουκάμισό μου μου αρέσει)
You are right it's not needed because of the double accent thing. Truth is, the monotonic system has some problems, and there is no official answer to the above matter (whether to add the accent on μου because there would be a double accent on πουκάμισο otherwise). I say it's good to accent the pronoun in every situation like that, because not only it follows the verbal speech (which actually accents the pronoun) but also because otherwise it's a constant quiz (Do I have to add the accent? Oh no the word is accented in the antepenult, so there would be a double accent). And I am for accenting two μου that come one after the other (Ο πατέρας μου μού είπε=My father told me), not only because it follows the rules of verbal speech, but it's aesthetically efficient. But this is my opinion, and there is no official answer to that.
With the possessive, we can continue without another μου. Το πουκάμισό μου αρέσει=People like my shirt/my shirt is liked. Αρέσω is an active verb in Greek and can stand as is.
I am very fond of the grammatitians' "do the minimum needed" (maybe because I am a mathematician)
Yes you are right with the possessive. I see it now. Silly of me.
The accent is not a "much" thing to do, and it solves many problems...
Do you mean: You like? = σου αρέσει for sing. you and σας αρέσει for pl. you
Oh. Μου is genitive of εγώ. Αρέσω has indirect object which is genitive nowadays since Greek does not have dative any more. One complication with αρέσω is that the En. subject becomes the Gr object and vv. One can use "please" to get it right: I like the shirt - The shirt pleases me- Μου αρέσει το πουκάμισο
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This is confusing to me. Sorry, i'm a beginner, but μου here looks more like Dative to me: it pleases ME. No? How can it be genitive when its indicating an object of affection rather than possession?
You are on the right track with dative. The problem is that Modern Greek does not have dative so they use genitive instead
I saw that you read Spanish. In Greek αρέσω is similar to gustar in Spanish but with genitive instead of the non-existing dative. The same goes for γουστάρω but it is a slang word borrowed from Italian.
Here το πουκάμισο seems to be in Nominative. In that case, it shouldn't be in this exercice which is for the Accusative, should it?
Yes, as you so correctly noticed "το πουκάμισο" is Nominative. But "το πουκάμισο" is the same in the Accusative. Thanks for the comment and the chance to point that out.
In μου αρέσει το ποκάμισο the subject is το ποκάμισο and in nominative and the indirect object is μου in genitive since modern Greek does not have dative. It is like the English the shirt pleases me also μου αρέσει ο γείτονάς μου/I like my neighbour -my neighbour pleases me
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This section is supposed to be about the accusative, but I don't see an accusative here.
