https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

A very hard day of learning Russian

Today, I had to do 290 XP to have all lessons up to date... I'm really tired after 4 hours of learning. It seems to me that I need more and more repetitions to keep the lessons golden. Especially the verbs... And since I only have 30-60 minutes a day, I noticed this week I was falling behind. Am I the only one here with this problem or do you recognize it? I must say, today was the first day I had no fun whatsoever in learning. It was just hard work!

2 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/FieryCat
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Как хорошо, что мне не нужно учить этот язык! :D

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zeitschleifer
Zeitschleifer
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Зачем тогда его учить? (это я про 10-й уровень :)))

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FieryCat
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Как не странно, смысл в этом есть: таким образом я дополнительно учу английский. Получается сложнее, чем в обычном дереве. Например, на много больше заданий для перевода предложений с русского на английский, новые фразы, обороты и т.д.

На самом деле многие, у кого родной язык русский, проходят этот курс.

p.s. Я ждал этот вопрос. Вам, как первому задавшему его, приз: немного линготов :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Terag
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I'm a language teacher and I would say that it's counter-productive to spend so long learning something at one time. You get tired and can't concentrate and it's much more difficult for things to "go in". It's much better to learn regularly for short periods - then you really remember what you are trying to learn because you can concentrate properly. As well, you don't get discouraged which is half the battle of learning!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cumeon
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I completely agree. I am very impatient and obseesive and I tried to blast trough this thing in 3 months or so. But I beat me down so hard.

What frustrated me the most is exactly this long time, little by little. And I used to think "Since I can't learn it might as well drop this, I guess I'm too stupid."

But I decided to give it a rest, I lost my 40 days streak and started anew, and it's a lot better.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MAnyKey
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Don't worry much if a couple of your skills aren't gold. You can practice it when it gets down by two and there is a high chance that you still remember them. You can learn a new skill instead. By the way, I believe 60 minutes a day is a lot of work and you should be proud of yourself. Keep up the good work and have fun!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/archiknight
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Don't worry. After all of the work you've done today, tomorrow will be much easier :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

I 'comment' on my own post for all who have replied here: thank you! I love Russian, I love the sound of it. I have no problems whatsoever with learning words. I do have still problems with the grammar. But then again, I don't understand grammar at all, not even in my own language.

Terar: you are right. I usually study 30 minutes during my lunch break and 30-45 minutes in the evening. Yesterday, I really wanted to have all lessons golden.

I just checked and &*())&^^^ I have to do 5 lessons tonight...

The thing is I'm learning Russian because I like the sound and because I'm going to Russia again next year. I don't want to be able to speak and read like a native, I just want 'some' Russian. And I need something completely different from my day job to keep my head clear ;-) So a day like yesterday is a big disappointement. Thank you all for reading this, and replying, and the advice! I gave you all a lingot.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cumeon
Cumeon
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Same here.

Every day when I log in and see that I got 8-9 old courses jsut falling down. But the funny thing is when I practice them to make them gold I actually realise I forgot everything o.O

So I guess it's worth it.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/agrariana

All of that hard work and reviewing will pay off. Sometimes it is grueling but worth it in the end.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Thank you!!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielK-v

those who want to go to Russia,should understand what kind of atmosphere you like!Petersburg - the usual European city. Moscow is worth it to ride on the subway or on the outskirts of the city. I suggest a quiet, not crowded city or village. There and the people are very friendly and cheerful! Kazan is not a major city, but quiet, and the people live in Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan! Prompt, feed and all for free! I know English very bad. with errors sorry! I am from Moscow!те , которые хотят поехать в россию,должны понять какая атмосфера вам по душе!Петербург- обычный европейский город. Москва стоит того, чтобы поездить по метро или по окраинам города. Я советую тихие не наполненные людьми города или деревни. Там и народ очень доброжелательный и жизнерадостный! Казань не крупный город, но тихий, а народ прям как в киргизии или узбекистане! Подскажут, накормят и всё за бесплатно! Я знаю английский очень плохо. с ошибками извините! Я из Москвы

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Like many other tourists, I went to Moscow last year to visit the Red Square and the Kremlin. Loved the cathedral and the museum, loved to just walk around and feel the atmosphere. It was mid-winter, but only -5 (Celcius) and the sun was shining. The subway was a great experience and one of the reasons I want to learn more Russian because it was quite a challenge not to be able to read the destinations ;-) Next year i will be going to St. Petersburg and do all 'touristy things' too... And maybe after that, try and find other places to go to that are not so touristy. Thing is, I have a full time job and not so much money and time to spend ;-( so I cannot visit Russia unlimited.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/porosenok1

Currently subway map was translated into English and stations announce in two languages

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
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Not every line has stations announced in two languages, though.

Also, it helps to know Russian anyway if a foreign tourist hopes to have any chance remembering the names of the stations. Krasnoselskaya is just a long word if you tackle it head-on. However, if you do know the basics, then you see it as red + village + an adjectival suffix and ending. So "red"+sel- is the only part you have to memorize, really.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Well, with a good old fashioned Lonely Planet guide we got where we wanted to go ;-) but I think it is more fun to be able to read the destinations myself.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zeitschleifer
Zeitschleifer
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They deprive her of all fun by doing that.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Catdip
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When you try to keep all the lessons golden, how do you go about it? If you click on an individual skill, it gives an option to strengthen that skill. But if you click on strengthen skills below your daily goal (not clicking on a skill) it will oftentimes strengthen two skills at the same time. That would half your time unless you were already doing this.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Usually I click on individual skills but I will indeed try and do more 'strenghten skill'. Especially now I noticed this: yesterday during my lunchtime at work I strenghtend two skills, Nature and Education. At home, yesterday evening, I had to do the same all over again!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielK-v

Not to spend a lot of money and check the Russian drive to Belarus. Petersburg is very expensive,beautiful and visited city.Budget traveler here does not clear up! And it is very cold (in winter). In St Petersburg it is necessary to spend with accommodation 4000 rubles per person. Чтобы не потратить много денег и проверить русский езжайте в Белоруссию. Петербург очень дорогой,красивый и посещаемый город.Бюджетному туристу тут особо не разгуляешься! И там очень холодно (зимой). В Ст Петербурге в среднем тратится с проживанием 4000 руб на человека.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

I think I will go to St. Petersburg in July. I'm travelling with my niece and she is a student so she won't have time in winter. 4000 rubles, per night is not very expensive (where I'm from it's hard to find accommodation for that price).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LICA98
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well 1 tree isn't that bad even, I keep 3 trees golden with almost no problems, then the 4th one is already challenging

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J_Tchaikovsky
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:o

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yparshkova

)keep up the hard work!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GeneM.
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I hear what you're saying and from my experience I would advise you not to worry about keeping everything golden because doing so will only continue to overwork you. Remember, you are really your own boss when it comes to language learning and you should have control over how much you review, not the Duo program. This is just the program reminding you that's it's good to review what you have learned, but yeah, in the past I too would get very obsessed about this and found out that it only hindered my progress. I think it's better to put consistency over quantity. A little bit each day will carry you much further because when it starts to feel like a chore and no longer fun, chances are that you may give up. But don't even think about that. Hang in there. You can do it!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Thank you for your good advice!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Terag
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Thank you, Jannelies. That was very nice of you! Do you know people in Russia who you will be able to talk to when you go? Because if so, you will find that you make a lot of progress while you are there (depends how long you go for too, of course). It is hard and confusing at first, but with practice and habit it gets much more natural and easier. All the best.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

No, I don't know any people there but I will try and do simple things like ordering food or tickets and I hope to be able to find my way around easier (because I would like to be able to read the signs on bus or metro). I will be visiting St. Petersburg, and of course go to the ballet.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MAnyKey
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If you haven't been on top of Saint Isaac's Cathedral, you should certainly go there. The view is very beautiful.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

I will certainly remember this! Thank you.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EHCMARCH16

when I first started I got waaaaaaaaaay to exited and completed a lot of stuff I wish I'd taken my time on, don't keep Russian it!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Comment on myself 30 September: I'm utterly surprised. Yesterday I was way too busy (went for a long walk in the zoo) so I was happy I always keep a streak freeze equipped. Now just a minute ago I logged in and ' low and behold' ever lesson is still golden. So the hard work this week indeed paid off. Today, I can start with new lessons, which is always the best part of learning.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jannelies1

Comment on myself, 3 October. Well, thanks to all the helpful comments here it is now fun again! First, I do not have to repeat so many lessons each day, because I strengthend them last week. Then, I got to go on with 'new' lessons, and these are not so hard. Third, I got some e-mails from Angelos Georgakis, who put a lot of very inspiring things on Youtube. He is awesome and very inspiring.

2 years ago
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