Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from September 18th to September 25th
Updates from Phase 2 courses
We have course updates from the Greek and the Hungarian teams. It is always good to hear from these courses and learn more on what goes behind the scene.
Several dates updated
As you will notice below, three courses have posted/revised their beta launch dates. The English for Telugu date does seem unrealistic. Perhaps a typo that would be corrected soon.
PHASE 1 Progress: Total
Esperanto for Spanish - 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% (+0)
Romanian for English - 99% | 99% | 99% | 99% (+0)
English for Thai - 99% | 99% | 99% | 99% (+0)
Portuguese for French - 96% | 96% | 98% | 98% (+0) 1-Oct-2016
German for Italian - 95% | 95% | 95% | 96% (+1)
Swahili for English - 70% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0) 1-Dec-2016 ^
Spanish for Italian - 70% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0)
Swedish for Russian - 69% | 69% | 69% | 69% (+0)
Italian for Portuguese - 65% | 66% | 67% | 67% (+0) 25-Dec-2016
Czech for English - 61% | 62% | 63% | 63% (+0) 7-Jul-2017 ^
French for Chinese - 48% | 48% | 48% | 48% (+0)
Russian for Turkish - 46% | 46% | 46% | 46% (+0) 31-Dec-2016
Spanish for Arabic - (New) 43% | 45% (+2)
French for Turkish - 43% | 44% | 44% | 44% (+0)
Klingon for English - 33% | 33% | 33% | 33% (+0) 31-Dec-2016
Hindi for English - 28% | 28% | 28% | 28% (+0) 26-Jan-2017 ^
Indonesian for English - 28% | 29% | 27% | 27% (+0)
Korean for English - 24% | 25% | 26% | 27% (+1) 31-Dec-9999
English for Tamil - 19% | 19% | 19% | 19% (+0) 28-Feb-2017
English for Bengali - 13% | 13% | 16% | 19% (+3) 20-Feb-2017
Yiddish for English - 9% | 9% | 9% | 9% (+0) 7-Jul-2018
English for Tagalog - 0% | 0% | 0% | 3% (+3) 24-Dec-2016
English for Telugu - 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% (+0)
Course - 3 weeks ago | 2 weeks ago | a week ago | Now (Progress delta); Estimated Launch Date (provided by contributors) (Date delta)
'Estimated Launch Date' only when provided by the course contributors
Mean - 0.36% | 0.23% | 0.30% | 0.43% (+0.13)
Median - 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% (+0)
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hindi, Czech, & Swahili teams' progress is as per their own calculation
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
(For Phase-1 and Phase-2 courses by default, and for Phase-3 courses per request).
1272 words, 64%.
Slowly, but steadily
we're slowly but steadily pushing our rate of reports down. Last week we were at around 18, this week we're at 15.7, so there's some progress there! More tips & notes are coming, we keep adding translations and listening to your reports and finally duolingo got back to us, as well.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible to add TTS (text-to-speech; the synthetic audio you might know from other courses) to the Hungarian course for single words — mixing recordings appears to be impossible. I hope that we can maybe add slowed-down recordings so that we can make the turtle-button work, but I am a bit doubtful about that. You'll hear about it!
Some other questions I asked where solved in the meantime — the course has been available on mobile for a while now, and the accents that many of you were asking for should also be working properly.
There are still many improvements to be made, but we're making progress in fixing sentences — our declining report rate testifies for that. I cannot help but thank you all again for your feedback and reports!
50K learners (progress update included)
Hello everyone!!! We have reached 50 thousand learners in less than a month!!! The course is running out normally. There are approximately 8 reports per 100 users, while our target is 3 reports. Your help is much appreciated.
Problematic audio cannot be disabled yet
We have transliterated Greek sentences to Greeklish as far as Animals 1. We have stopped for a while, because we have asked permission from the Duolingo staff to add language rules. If Duolingo accepts our proposal, Greeklish will be accepted automatically for all skills if you follow our transliteration rules posted on Writing in Greek or Greeklish
Greek will be available for mobile devices soon! We cannot give an exact date, but it may be in a few weeks.
Greek words cannot be removed, because the tree is locked. We can only replace wrong sentences with new ones by using the same word.
For the Greek keyboard on Windows or Mac check out here
Special thanks to D_ , mizinamo, panagiotists13, Stergi3, trezost, troll1995, Speugenia, Miliarma and anyone else who help learners and make our job much easier.
Σας ευχαριστούμε πολύ,
Η Ελληνική ομάδα
1292 words, 65%.
I think I had a revelation this week, a simple idea consistent with the content of the contributor applications we get: No one who reads these updates ever applies to contribute to the course. Pardon the rant. Back to using words sparingly :-)
أهلا بالجميع و مرحبًا. بدئنا أسبوعنا الأول بجد و جهد كبير و انهينا عددًا ليس سيئًا من الكلمات و المهارات و اقتربنا من الوصول إلى أول حاجز ونكرر أيضًا للتأكيد أن النسبة لهذه الدورة غير حقيقية. هاهي صورة للشجرة توضح لكم ما فعلناه في هذا الأسبوع.
لذا نلقاكم في الأسبوع القادم!
Adios (إلى اللقاء)
الفريق الأسباني لمتحدثي اللغة العربية
The Bengali team is rocking with two Leader Extraordinaire awards in that many weeks. The wait for EO for ES, and Romanian has been extended.
Previous Update 11-Sep to 18-Sep
Translation of Arabic update:
Hi everyone and welcome. We began our first week with earnest and great efforts and we completed a decent number of words and skills. We got closer to the first checkpoint and we also reiterate the confirmation that the percentage for this course is not accurate.
This is a picture of the tree showing you what we did this week.
With that we will meet you next week!
Goodbye (goodbye/until we meet again),
The Spanish for Arabic speakers team"
I hope Duolingo surprises us with the Romanian course like they did with the Greek course:)
the course is essentially finished, they're fixing mistakes while waiting on TTS, so should be good to go at any time. I think it'll be a surprise too.
After being at 70% for years it's refreshing to know that it will be out for real in the near future. I pretty much gave up months ago.
But what about those of us whose native language isn't English, but it's the only other language from which they're fluent enough to start learning other languages?
As for me, I could probably also use Spanish or Italian or even (with some difficulty) German or French or Portuguese as a starting point for new languages, but sadly there are no new languages incubating for those either (except Esperanto for Spanish which I'm not really interested in).
I'm well aware it's not just native speakers who use the English courses, but the fact remains that those of us who speak English (native or otherwise) are spoiled. I would love to see more courses to and from other languages too, including languages not yet represented on Duolingo; and I'd love to see more from English, too, of course I would.
But... for goodness' sake, we have twenty, and eight more incubating. We have courses in almost all the languages Duolingo offers; the only courses off the top of my head that aren't available for English speakers are Catalan and Guarani. And this is just one free site of many offering free language tuition to English speakers.
Regardless of one's native language, a person who speaks English well enough to study from it is well catered for on Duolingo. Sure, hope for new and interesting languages to be added, but is it really so hard to see other languages have courses made available to them instead??
(And yes, Duolingo is convenient and fun and all that, but let's be real, anglophones - native and otherwise - are better catered for almost everywhere else, too. Not having language X for English speakers available on Duolingo doesn't mean it isn't available on a slew of other websites, and anglophone resources are typically wildly over represented everywhere.)
I honestly do not get this attitude at all. I am consistently amazed and delighted by the sheer volume of resources available to me for free online - by the fact that I have cheaper options than buying Colloquial Whatever. Duolingo is like a candy store. Twenty languages, people! Basic courses in TWENTY LANGUAGES. For free! Neatly laid out and all pretty so someone else has done all the organisation for me! That's amazing. I'm baffled how many people spend so much time complaining that there are "only" twenty. I would've gladly paid for a resource like Duolingo when I was at school and in uni.
I hope Swahili comes before Christmas. I'm looking forward to the English for Tagalog course. I'll probably use it while waiting for the reverse course.
As much as I want the Czech course to be out as soon as possible, I do understand that you deserve a break. I really appreciate all the hard work you put into making this course. I can't wait for it to be released. :)
...which is why I finished the reverse tree, English for Czech speakers, about a year ago. The grammar makes me feel less suicidal now that I'm on level 19, but I'm looking forward to learning it properly in a more structured manner. :D
It is people like you who make me want to finish it at all. Level 19 in English from Czech as a foreign language borders on insane :-) How did you ever figure out where to put things like SE a SI?
Actually I couldn't figure it out on my own. My native language, Swedish, has very simple grammar, so Czech was a complete mystery to me. For the first couple of months or so, each lesson took me about an hour to do, with the help of a grammar book. Then after a while things started to fall into place and became more of a trial and error process. About half way through the tree I didn't need the grammar book at all any more. Now, since a few months back, I'm reading the sentence discussions (in Czech) if I get puzzled.
Sorry, I didn't catch it earlier. I will include the 2% next week,so it will not be 0% :)
Hi Jiten, any updates on the Hindi course? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to have been fairly stagnant around the 20-something percents for over a year now. It's only strange to us because the Hindi team used to be so informative about progress, now there is no communication and no signs of progress...
Spanish for Arabic - (New) 43% | 45% (+2) 31-Dec-2017
ES<-AR team's progress (own calculation) is:
(New) 00% | 03% (+3)
I will add your course for the manual progress update path beginning next week.
Y sin noticias aún para el curso de Esperanto :( Estaba planeado para mediados de agosto y ya va a acabar octubre.
Your "Team Tagalog" link above the Tagalog update seems to be wrong, it just leads me back to the discussion (if I open it in a new tab) or to my tree (if I open it in this tab).
They are not at 3%, but at 0%. Since they haven't started yet, I am assuming there's a typo in the date.
You'll notice that I said 0,3%, not 3%. But yeah, I was questioning the date. From 0 to 100 in a month is about as fast for a course as it's slow for a car.
Aha! the European style of writing decimals. I seem to forget that...
The Esperanto for Spanish speakers flag is glitchy again (for me at least.) Strange, considering it wasn't glitchy the first time around...
Edit: Grr Romanian's been set back another month (On a side note, thank you so much for your hard work, course contributors! You're all amazing!)
Is everyone who sees weird flags using the Chrome browser? If so, try going to normal zoom level (CTRL-zero).
Yeah, I've only seen that problem on the Chrome myself.
Which is odd because if I tried to view this page on my Firefox browser, I wouldn't see a thing. (Can still do the lessons though, thankfully).
Edit: Are you talking about the flags in the incubator or the flags by the commenters' profile pics here?, because I don't have a problem seeing the right flags in the comments section like some seem to.
The Polish for English speakers course also seems to be showing the French flag...
My flags are screwy too... it says that I'm currently learning Portuguese, and that's definitely not the German flag next to my highest level!
Esperanto is listed, though, at least from where I'm looking. It goes German - French - Esperanto - Spanish - English - Irish.
That's odd, mine still don't look accurate to me and they change when I reopen the page!
Romanian on silent until release. hoping for it as a surprise, as I should finish the French and Norwegian trees pretty soon and will want my next language. I'd love to do swedish, danish, dutch, or finish the portuguese tree I started, but 2.0 trees for all of these are on the way in the future as well, so might as well stick it out.
I can't help but wonder what the hold up with Esperanto for Spanish speakers could be.
Surely they've heard back from the Esperanto Academy by now, even if they do have, how many sentences to check? 50.000?
Even if they haven't finished double checking the course for mistakes by now, surely they have a rough idea how long it will take by now?
El mismo que el curso de Rumano para angloparlantes: la migración del sistema "Text-to-speech" de Duolingo. Curiosamente, el curso de Guaraní para hispanoparlantes también tenía ese problema pero desde hace semanas que ya esta en beta.