https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin

New way to reach incubator pages

I was just practicing and went to switch to my reverse course. When I clicked on the flag this came up. While it's great giving access to the incubator pages, it does make it more difficult to switch languages, as now I have to go to my settings to do so. Is this permanent or are bugs still being worked out?

New incubator approach

February 12, 2014

50 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

You can switch languages directly form the top bar with a single click, except for two cases: (1) adding a new language that you were not learning before, and (2) switching to a course where the UI is in a different language (for example the reverse course). We'll make it easier to do #2 soon, but for #1 we don't expect you to be starting a new course often so having an extra click doesn't seem like a big problem.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin

Thanks! I love the new way to see all the languages. Looking forward to when you solve the problem to #2.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/aorejas

I think it could be great make possible doing different courses with a different source language. Even make the same course with two different source language.

What do you think?

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

@aorejas,

Duolingo and Duolingoer volunteers are creating a lot of different courses right now. You can see those courses and their status towards completion by going to http://incubator.duolingo.com

In addition, you can learn more about the process by going to this FAQ: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1426103 and looking up the section on Incubator/New Languages ^_^

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin

While the old incubator page is still useful for seeing announcements from the course creators, the new way to see the incubated courses provides significantly more detail. Unless you are bilingual and interested in creating a course of your own, I recommend using the new feature rather than the first link provided by Usagiboy7.

One significant benefit of the new feature, addressing Usagiboy7's issue of "status toward completion," is that the new pages actually show the progress of beta courses where the old incubator page did not.

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

@revdolphin, I just found what you were talking about. I hadn't noticed that previously! Thanks for pointing it out :D

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/dwduo

The new incubator pages are very nice! Now that's more like it! :)

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/saschambaer

Shouldn't languages listed in "I speak X" be translated to their respective language?

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/OldSpiceGuy

I had the same thought.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L

They are translated, it depends in which interface you start. If you start from the Russian course, it is all in Russian.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto

Is the progress bar for beta courses just based on time since beta release or does it take into account other factors?

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bchan

For now it is just based on time since beta release, but this will be updated once we have more accurate measures for when an incubator language is ready to be out of beta.

@Usagiboy7: If you look at the progress bar for English for Dutch (Netherlands) speakers, you can see what they mean.

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

@stecchetto, it is not based on time. It is based on the amount of material and localization that has been entered into the system. :)

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto

I know that's the case for phase 1 courses but I'm talking about phase 2 courses that already have all their content. From my checking it seems like the progress bar lengths for those courses correspond roughly to how long they've been in phase 2, but I was wondering if that's how it's actually calculated or if it takes into account other factors like error report rate.

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

Oh! I see now. Good question. Stage 2 courses generally leave the "Incubator" (Enter Stage 3, but still locatable in the Incubator) when their trees are gold. This means that people's reports of errors slow down enough not to degrade the skills. A Language Moderator will probably have a more coherent explanation though. ^_^

Edit Also their progress bars haven't shown anything to me yet, except that they have reached the midway point where beta begins. Do you see something different?

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

The incubator is not the place to access lessons .. the settings are to look there at the new available courses to use.. the new look at the incubator also gives a look at the contributers and so as to thank them properly

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

Jackelliot, is this on the website or the app? If it's on the Website, have you tried changing your language using the settings menu? Also check out the post below from Usagiboy7.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

staff dealt with it very quickly and resolved it ...The new lovely incubator site confused me this morning and I should have realised that the other languages were still in the same place in the settings ..... Sorry .... My mistake

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Wow that new page is so beautiful... thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'm so stoked to see what it's going to look like 5 years from now :D and the best part is that it's free.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ElOtroMiqui

Actually I like it. I think it looks very cool. Also, the animation in the incubated courses is very cool x)

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta

I like that you can see who has contributed the most to each course!

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian

I do love the illustrations. Correct me if i'm wrong, folks: Teotihuacán, Eiffel Tower, Brandenburg Gate, Colosseum, Christ the Redeemer

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian

Check that, Chichen Itza. Wrong civilization!

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

Hi revdolphin,

This is what I'm seeing. You should have both options available from the icon on your home tab.

This is also how you get to the Stage 2 beta courses, as well as completed Stage 3 courses.

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PS thanks for posting screenshots. I never go that route (I always go through the home icon), so I wouldn't have seen them. I love the pictures :D

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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Did you see you got an honorable mention by the über-owl! XD

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin

Thanks. I had forgotten about that shortcut to go to my settings.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum

This is amazing! Beautiful! :D

I have no words to say how neat this is!

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ColombiaBio

I enjoy with "I speak all languages".

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Trang.

I love this one. Now I can know the contributors of my favorite course. Thank you!

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/laemagno

Wouldn't it make more sense to have, let's say, La Sagrada Familia as Spanish's picture, since it's the Spanish flag Duo is using? Still, great pictures nonetheless.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum

Duolingo teaches South American Spanish and they have the Spanish flag just to clarify it's Spanish because there is no main country in SA that speaks Spanish. That's why they have the pyramid there (the name escapes me).

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Godoflais

Chichen Itza (Mexico)

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/ApoloRosales

La Sagrada Familia is in barcelona and they are supposed to speak catalan there so, no. Plus most spanish speakers are in México

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Beautiful interface!

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen

Absolutely love it! It looks amazing, and I love also the detail page for every language, where the contributors are shown much more prominent and even with the percentage of how much they contributed... he he, good one, Duo, you are quite creating some competition there among them ^^

February 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/attcat23

This is really cool! I love that the progress bar gives percentages of completion for incubator courses now, and the blurbs about the languages are a nice touch. But wouldn't it make more sense to list the names of the languages under "I speak" in the learner's native language rather than having them all in English? For instance, instead of "German" it would say "Deutsch," "Italian" would say "Italiano" and so on.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/revdolphin

They're all in the interface language. When I switch to learning English from Spanish, everything there is in Spanish. I like that it provides the information to everybody regardless of the language you speak.

From Spanish Interface

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/OlderThanRome

Fun fact: Each language has one paragraph of description now, and each description is translated into each of the languages Duolingo offers. If Duolingo ever offers all languages that are spoken by more than one million people on the world (393 according to Ethnologue), then 154.449 paragraphs, or 8 million words will need translation. About 13 times War and Peace.

Not that there's a shortage of translators here--I wonder if these descriptions will show up in immersion :)

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

Wow, that new page is awesome! I signed up to get notified when English for Korean speakers is done because that means that development of Korean for English speakers will be starting soon after.:)

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

I want to add that the courses shown in revdolphin's screen shot are official courses (aka Stage 3).

You can still take the beta courses (Stage 2, still in testing) if you go through your home tab's "change language" flag icon just above your Strengthen Skills option. See the screen shot in my previous comment. ^_^

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/OlderThanRome

Actually, in the second screen shot from revdolphin (the Spanish one in the comment), you can see German from Spanish, which is displayed as "hatching" if you go to the page and scroll down. So even the courses in creation are there, and it seems like each language pair has two pages now:

https://www.duolingo.com/course/de/es http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/de/es/status

And there's even a new feature on the new page: "Notify me me when available" :)

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Vedun

http://i.imgur.com/0i6x5ZW.png

please, fix this

Also, notify people more clearly that some courses aren't ready yet or there'll be many rageposts "Why can't I learn this language even though it's listed?" coming.

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/bchan

Please hard refresh your page. If that doesn't work, what browser are you using?

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Vedun

it's gone now. Im using firefox and was watching the Russian course

February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7

@Vedun,

Oh wow! That certainly looks like a screen shot for the Troubleshooting team!

You can find the Troubleshooting forum as pictured below. As a moderator, I don't have the controls to tinker with the layout. But some of the folks over there do ^_^

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February 12, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/victorvillena

Firefox use here, it was broken yesterday, now it's fine. :)

February 13, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

Same here.

February 13, 2014
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