"Hova esel?"

Translation:Where are you falling to?

October 7, 2016

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Why is this sentence in Animals?


Maybe it's because you're falling into the gorilla cage?


I came here to study, not to cry :/


Or maybe you trip over your cat / your cat's tail. Actually, I do this a lot.


It makes no sense, does it?!


If one is falling one has no time to be answering such questions!


Specially not since this sentence is in the "Animals" section.


The English version of this sentence is not grammatical - you don't fall "to" anything in English. I understand that you want to impress that "hová" is "where to" as vs "where/hol," but this isn't the way to do it.


Can somebody help me with a context you might use this in?


Where are you/did you fall?

I fell into a hole, help me out!


But this is in the past tense. "Where DID you fall" makes total sense. If someone is in the process of falling and you ask them where they're falling (if, say, you're both talking on cell phones), by the time you get an answer, they would already have hit the ground, or whatever they fell on. It would make more sense if someone were asking "where do you fall" in the habitual sense. "I always fall in the skating rink."


Or I often fall in the hallway because I trip over the umbrella stand (just as Tonks did at Grimmauld Place).


I fall into the crocodile pit because I don’t read the signs about dangerous animals.


what is the difference between hol and hova


Hol = where, referring to a static position. You can be moving around within the position, but not away from or towards it. E.g. Hol futsz? A parkban futok. = Where are you running? I'm running in the park. I started out in the park, and am staying in the park until I am done running.

Hova/Hová = where to. E.g. Hova futsz? A parkba futok. = Where are you running (to)? I'm running into the park. I started somewhere other than the park and will end up in the park.

Honnan = where from. E.g. Honnan futsz? A parkból futok. = Where are you running from? I'm running out of the park. I started running in the park and will end up somewhere other than the park.


thanks. That sounds complicated. So why hova in this sentence and not hol? Or could it conceivably be both?


I guess the creators intended the sense of 'where are you falling to'. The English allows for both options though, so if it doesn't accept 'hol esel' for 'where are you falling', I'd recommend reporting it. The course is still in Beta, so we just need to keep reporting when we find alternative translations like this :)


Great explanations THANK YOU!!!! Have a lingot!


Hol is "where" (ex. hol van a táskám? - where is my purse?) And hová is "to where" (ex. hová sétálsz? - to where are you walking?)


Is it incorrect to write "hová"? Is there are difference, and can anyone explain what it is?


Are you talking about "hova" vs. "hová"? They are totally interchangeable. Just variations of the same word.


Thanks! I thought that was the case, but then when it marked it wrong I began to question myself. I'll report it.


Where are you falling in? Was not accepted and I don't know why. Isn't it logic, to fall into something? The Hungarian sentence is easy to translate it into German: Wohin fällst du! But I cannot imagine any 100% fitting English translation for it.


We actually have several similar words, but while they are valid they sound archaic and you're more likely to see them in Shakespeare or similar.

To where = whither To there = thither To here = hither

From where = whence From there = thence From here = hence

And derived forms such as henceforth, whithersoever, and so on.

The most likely anyone would encounter would be “come hither” meaning “come here”, or “hence” to indicate that one thing implies another (similar to therefore).


Considering this, I want to suggest "Whither fallst thou?" as a translation. :)


:-) it sounds nice


German: Wohin fällst du?
Old English showing its close relation.

Is there really no way in translating this more accurate in modern English?
Where do you land? Where will you land? Since the destination is the point?

Actually if whither is the adequate but archaic question word, i think using it is better than a translation that loses the actual meaning.


I wrote the same thing out a few questions back, too! I find being able to compare them helpful, though surprising. Interesting that English has more or less lost those single words and replaced them with two, whilst Hungarian has kept them. Sensible Hungarians, using one word with more meaning in it. Useful if you ever have to write an essay with a word-count to it!


Or back in the day when we wrote letters and sent them air mail, which took longer and cost more: people wrote in tiny letters and covered every piece of that onionskin airmail writing paper, even the margins! There were red and blue rhomboid shaped borders on the outside after it was folded. Anyone here remember that? Ah, the days before email!


You could also fall onto something (to the ground, most naturally), so it's not an accurate translation. English has a hard time with movements, as you can see all over this course. :D


Yes, Where do You fall -could be also: hol esel ? It is difficult, to find out the wanted answers.


Dumb sentence, not about animals.


In Polish slang people say "spadamy/spadam" if they want to go out. This means literally "We are falling/I am falling". The rude version of this is to say to sb "Spadaj!". It means "Go out!". My question is: if in Hungarian exist the same meaning?


no, there is no such meaning in Hungarian. "Beesik valahova" can mean "arrive quickly / arrive in the last minute".

If you want a rude-ish / colloquial phrase for "go out! / leave", that would be "húzd el a csíkot" or more simply "húzz el". The phrase "csíkot húz" literally means, "to pull (~draw) a line" since that's the trail an airplane leaves behind (after going away quickly)


Does the same meaning exist in Hungarian?


I cant think of a situation where this sentence would ever be used.


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