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You will see from the post just above yours that the course does not accept numbers but only written words. that was a decision made in the interests of having more words offered in Greek. "The sum is twenty-five." should be accepted. Yes, I realize that this is an English reply but in the interest of consistency, we still need the words. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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I used numbers throughout, never words, because it saves time. It was always accepted in every sentence, but this one... are you sure that "no number - just words" is the policy followed?
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yeah, we're here to learn greek. not english... i'm pretty sure everyone here knows how to spell 25!
and while i'm really thankful to every single Duolingo contributor, i strongly believe that this kind of strictness is one of the most frustrating things in the whole UX.
like many other people learning greek here, english is not my mother tongue. and everytime a translation is clearly correct but gets refused bacause of a policy like this one, it is frankly very annoying. but, again, thank you anyway for your work. i was just trying to give you a different perspective on the matter :-)
Thank you and it is just this kind of input that helps us improve the course. We have begun accepting numerals in higher skills and only require the words in the beginning.
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That's fine. I was confused because it listed "the total is 25" with the number as a correct response.
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You used the wrong word. • the total is 25 • The sum is twenty- five.
that was duo's reason for marking me wrong for my answer, which was..........".the sum is 25"
so it accepts some numbers and some words.
I remember when I joined the team that we had agreed to only accept words for numbers to advance learning. I'm assuming it's still in force.
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I don't know if a new decision was made since you wrote this comment, but it seems numbers are accepted now. The problem I just ran into is, when I typed "25" it said I should have written "20 5."
EDIT: Oh dear, I should remember to read the whole comment section, someone else already brought this up. My apologies.
No problem. It would help if you could also report this to Duo. https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us
Give all the information: web, Android or iOS and what kind of skill it was.
What you wrote and what Duo said is correct.
Many thanks.
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Had the same problem. But not 25 was marked wrong. Sum was underlined as the wrong word
A disclaimer has been added about this matter in the tips and notes for the Numbers skill (since there's nowhere else for us to post it). It might take a while to update, but it will be there from now on. ^.^
What do you mean about reporting it to Duolingo? If so, I believe I submitted my sentence using the option in the flag.
No, not that one. I was referring to the fact that we have begun accepting numerals in the more advanced skills, but we need whole words in the "Numbers" skill.
Oh, ok. I think it's ok to expect literal numbers in this section, but maybe you should give a hint about that, since numbers are fine in other sections? Thanks anyway!
OMG? What will my poor eyes see next? Was this on the web? Android? iOS? Our incubator for this sentence does show any numerals it is "twenty-five" all the way. In fact, we do not use numerals but prefer words throughout the course so the learner gets more practice.
What kind of exercise was it? Strengthen skills. If you could get a screen shot it would go far in getting this corrected.
Let us know so we can report it. Thanks for the notification.
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It was a translate from Greek question on strengthen skills. When it came up again it was fine with words for the number (in English I generally don't bother with words for numbers, only use those in Greek), but this was an odd one!
It would help if you could report this directly to Duo. See Bug report. We are hoping these odd bugs will be seen to sooner if the report comes from the community. Many thanks.
Thank you, I appreciate it and I believe it will get more attention coming from the community.
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This seems a bit odd: http://imgur.com/a/Ydo1L
Is it because είκοσι πέντε is a different thing to είκοσιπεντε?
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25 is εικοσι πέντε and nothing else. Numbers are written separate after δεκαεννιά.
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Εικοσιπέντε does not exist since nothing extraordinary happened in Greece the year -25.
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Εικοσιένα is the year 1821 when the Greek Freedom War started. Είκοσι ένα is the number*
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Είκοσιδύο/ Εικοσιδυό is the year 1922, the Catastrophy of Minor Asia, είκοσι δύο is the number
The only thing I can image is that since the incubator does not accept numbers but only in words it arrived at that odd figure. thanks for the notification.
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Gosh! Duo itself shows (in orange color!) 'άθροισμα' as 'NEW WORD'! and gives us the translation: 'sum'!!
Then I use Duo's translation, 'sum', and Duo says I used "the wrong word", and gives the correct one: 'total'... 'The total is 25', WITH 'total' UNDERLINED, showing that the problem is not the number, but the translation of 'άθροισμα'... How can one be happy with such bugs?!!! :D
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The question was shown again afterwards, I wrote 'The total is 25' and now, ok, Duo accepted it!! Hahaha!!! The problem is not the number, the problem is the "wrong" translation that Duo itself had given... ;)
Both "sum" and "total" are accepted as translations and have been for at least 2 months. If you could give us the section in which "sum" was rejected you'd be helping us correct the error.
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Sorry, I didn't take note, but I reported in that opportunity, when I saw the problem.
If you do Strengthen Skills it will sometimes reject correct answers. We have reported this many times but it still hasn't been correct. If you get such a rejection please let us know we would appreciate your help.
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As far as I can remember, the problem occurred in a Strengthen activity, yes! and, as I mentioned, I reported it when it happened. Thanks for your attention! :)
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Yes it happens when you strengthen skills at section numbers when you have to translate greek to english (typing the words yourself, not just choosing them from a list of given words)
Since this is a technical error it might help if you report it directly to Duolingo staff: https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us
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Should εικοσιπέντε be one word This translation sounds like the twenty is seperate from the five
Είκοσι πέντε are two words as shown above. The audio sounds correct and there is a natural carry over from one word to the other. IOW it doesn't stop after "είκοσι".
No, είκοσι πέντε is written as two words in Greek.
See e.g. http://www.schooltime.gr/2013/03/06/arithmoi-grammatiki-neoellinikis-glossas/ . Only the numbers from 13 to 19 are written as one word.
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and the hundreds: διακόσια, τριακόσια, τετρακόσια, πεντακόσια, εξακόσια, επτακόσια, οκτακόσια, εννιακόσια Here is another link:
How to count in Greek. Both read and listen http://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/greek.htm without the hundreds though
Well, yes. But unlike δεκαπέντε where δέκα and πέντε exist as separate words, there is no word κόσια just as there is no word άντα ήντα ντα, so τριάντα εξήντα etc. have to be written together as do διακόσια etc.
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What is the difference between άθροισμα, σύνολο, and ποσό? They seem mostly interchangeable.
Άθροισμα = sum, σύνολο = total, and ποσό = amount. The difference between them in Greek is the same as it is with their translations in English, and they are not always interchangeable. ^.^
"άθροισμα" and "σύνολο" both mean "adding up numbers" and either can be used in this sentence. "ποσό" is just the amount with no indication of adding. So, if we say "That's 12 euros for the shirt and 15 euros for the tie the sum is 27 euros." That's άθροισμα" or "σύνολο"**. But if I say "The cost of the shoes is 27 euros." there's no adding involved so it's just the "amount" or "ποσό".
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On my 3rd lesson in level 4 and have used numbers in all my responses but this one. This is the only one that is asking me to write out twenty five.
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I think the number is twenty-five. Duolingo says I missed a space: twenty- five. Thank you.
That's the first time I've heard of Duo mentioning spaces. Might be a new grading method. It would be great if you could send a screenshot.
