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"Does 'na ddim byd yma."

Translation:There is nothing here.

October 9, 2016

15 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbunPang

What function does the ’na serve here?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ibisc

It is optional. If you do use it you must mutate the word which follows. Easy option, then... don't use it !


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

May be an influence of English, which uses "there" in such sentences.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PushythePirate1

hmm, that's interesting. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CliveBradl2

I'm assuming the " 'na " is yna? It's a strange construction if so. Can someone confirm or deny if it is a shortened 'yna' ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ieuan_ab_Arthur

Yes, it is a contraction of "yna"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DesertGlass

How does it have yna and yma in the same sentence? What does the 'na add ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

How does it have yna and yma in the same sentence? What does the 'na add ?

Compare the English sentence: "There is nothing here".

It has both a "there" in it and a "here".

The word "there" has no literal meaning; "there is" merely indicates the existence of something but not its location -- the location is specified by the word "here".

The Welsh construction seems to work similarly, with (d)oes 'na for talking about the (non-)existence and yma specifying the location where the thing exists (or does not exist).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Denpaja

This theory does not really hold for me given that in every other case 'Oes' and 'Does', on their own, are assumed to include the 'there' where appropriate to the English rendering?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kevin3537555

As other comments have mentioned, the 'na is optional and may be present due to English influence. Indeed "Does dim byd yma" would be an identical translation.

Colloquial constructions may often use some 'interesting' grammar, but it works :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DesertGlass

Hmmm ... I guess :-)

Thank you


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TelMonks

I was marked 'Wrong' for leaving the 'na out in one exercise.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ibisc

Unless you say which type of question it was and exactly what your complete answer was, there is no way to tell what the problem might have been.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TelMonks

Does ‘na ddim byd yma. I left off the ‘na and was marked wrong. I know it should be dim and not ddim, but that is usually scored as a typo.

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