Russian now available on Lingvist!
There was a discussion earlier about Lingvist.io starting to beta test their Russian (for English speakers) course, and now the test phase seems to be over. I received an email about the course being available today, and have had a chance to test the course a little bit. I've done all of their French course before, and although it's not as addictive and exciting as Duolingo, I'll definitely do the Russian one as well.
The idea behind Lingvist's vocabulary practice is to show you cloze tests, ie. sentences missing a word, in the target language, along with a translation. Your task is to fill in the missing word. The whole sentence is read out to you once you've completed it (whether straight away or after the program does it after you failed at it).
Clozemaster works in a similar way, and I'll continue to use that one as well, but Lingvist has a couple of things going for it:
There's a placement test at the beginning, so you can skip those words the program deems to be too easy for you.
After you made a mistake, you have to write the correct answer straight away, and then the same exercise is repeated a little bit later, which definitely helps me remember the word and its spelling. (As opposed to Clozemaster, where you only get the same exercise again at the end of that round of practice, which is very predictable and works less well for me.)
The repetition rate in general really fits my style of learning, better than any other program I use (Duolingo, Memrise, Clozemaster, etc.).
The learning stats can be quite addictive, and encourage one to do just a little bit more. The same goes for Clozemaster's stats.
The description of what word they are looking for tends to be really good (whereas with Clozemaster I find myself battling with synonyms, especially in French where I know more words).
The space where you are supposed to write the missing word matches the length of the word, even to the point where I can tell I've used ы instead of и. This can be good or bad -- someone else might find that this makes spelling too easy, but I like it.
The pronunciations seem good to me (as do Clozemaster's although the audio quality is a bit weird there).
The sentences are quite life-like (as are Clozemaster's), which gives me more of an idea of the language than the (admittedly funny and memorable, in their own cute way) Duolingo sentences.
The website and the app are quite smooth-looking and nice to use (as opposed to 80's throwback Clozemaster).
There doesn't seem to be a reading or listening section for Russian yet on Lingvist, but then I never really got into those in French either, although I know other people who liked them.
Note that Lingvist is free for now, but may become payable later. They've been saying this for years, though.
as opposed to 80's throwback Clozemaster
On the strength of that aside, I had to give Clozemaster a try -- somehow it's escaped my notice up to now. I love the interface! It makes me feel as though I'm playing an arcade machine in a chip shop. (I realize that not everyone would regard that assessment as a positive one, however.)
Yup, the style is a blessing and a curse! :-) Make sure to have the sound effects on... 8-)
Edit: And the selection of language pairs on Clozemaster is pretty unbeatable...
I am nor sure whether it is a good idea for me to check that one out as well. I've been known for addictive behaviour...
Yeah great news! It was me who posted about the beta release here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/18176820$comment_id=18192756
I'll be patient then - and check the site regularly. Thanks for the input.
Oops, sorry, it does seem that they open it up to different users at different times.
Check the link pprince87 posted; I signed up for that a while back, and then just waited for them to contact me. (After visiting the site incessantly all summer since they'd said the courses were going to be launched "this summer". :-) )
Regarding the addictive nature of different programs -- I can really understand that! I'm hooked on anything that counts a day streak. But now that I've started exploring Lingvist (which doesn't do that, but used to show your daily activity over a number of days -- they've changed the stats a bit and I'm not quite sure yet whether it's for the better), my Clozemaster use has gone right down to the bare basics.
(What? Did someone point out that the intended end result is to learn a language and not to win a game? :-p Oh, well.)
I had been away from lingvist for a while and was confused by the new layout when I logged in yesterday. I am not sure I like it, but then I am always critical of any design changes.
I was able to send a request for 'Russian from English' now - but only while being logged out, which is sort of strange.
Sign up for early access to Spanish and Russian https://lingvist.com/blog/2016/09/30/want-early-access-to-our-spanish-or-russian-courses/#page1
How do I get the placement test? I had signed up for the beta EN to RU a long time ago, and finally figured out how to get to the course through my profile page, but I don't see an option for the placement test. I find the site hard to navigate. Maybe I need to sign up all over again?
I don't know, unfortunately, I just opened the app on my phone once I saw the email about Russian being available. I wasn't expecting Russian to be on the app already (too used to Duolingo, I guess), but the very first thing I got was a page about what a great language Russian is and do I want to learn it, and then I was thrown into the placement test.
Is it possible to unsubscribe from that course and then just start it again, in the hope of getting the test?
On the website, once you've answered about a dozen questions (assuming you got a large enough proportion of them right), it says hey, you know some of this language, wanna take a placement test?
(I'm not convinced the placement test is very good. I made a couple of typos and it decided I knew 189 words and continued to give me words I already know sigh)
As someone just starting to migrate from actual paper books to the world of learning languages online, here's an upvote and a lingot for making me aware of the existence of these sites. Must admit I had been looking for companions to Memrise and Duo lately :)
Everything I use for language learning (further than my local library) are things I've learned about on here. It's an amazing world out there! There are just so many tools available, and most of the best ones seem to be free as well. We're spoiled...