https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Unable to understand the Greek and strange association

I speak fairly well in Greek and I am accustom to different accents when foreign people are trying to speak Greek. But half of what is said here I do not understand, the cadence is way off and parts of the word are mispronounced/not pronounced at all. Also the information being ask to write either as translation or in Greek has 0 association aka: n pineapple (ν ανανας) .. would make more sense to put alpha pineapple (αλφα ανανας)

Otherwise I think it is good program just need some tweaking.

October 12, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/idkhbtfm

Keep in mind, the Greek course is only in Beta, so you cannot expect everything to be perfect yet.

October 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Agree, but this why said it here instead of putting it as individual post .. otherwise it become redundant.

October 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ

Also, do you know Ancient or Modern Greek? There's a difference.

October 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Modern Greek, at Socrates 3 and Saturday school. We did learn some ancient greek as well but it used mostly at church

October 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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In addition to the other helpful posts on this stream let me add that the strange associations: n pineapple comes from the Greek α ανανας which is the beginning of the first unit. This unit is teaching the alphabet and showing the letter "a" then a word in Greek containing that letter "ανανάς" (pineapple in Eng.)

It may help if you looked at the forums ->here as well as the Tips&Notes on each page (top left) with information about each unit.

We are monitoring the audio and reporting the few instances of incorrect pronunciation which will be adjusted.

October 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Your link does not, but understand what you mean.. but as i said saying A as in Apple make more sense in any language.. in Greek there is no sounds of letter like in English and French ex: Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ ... It is relayed in words only Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta Epsilon, Zeta and most would know these word cause we use them in basic math and you see them as historical references.

One more thing the Ni (Ν) is pronounced thru the nose it more on the nasal sound you feel it there.

October 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Stergi3

I think this part is a bit tricky to understand its logic. But think that it is in the beginning of the language and there is no other way to learn the pronunciation of the Greek letters with the tools that DL has available and one of these is the translation of some phrases. It would be an approach if each letter considered as a new word, but it is a different approach.

October 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Your right, there are a lot of Greek sounds that do not translate to English sounds. As I stated above " I think it is good program"

October 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Elenaki.a

I do agree with you. I think it sounds a bit robotic because of the TTS. But, as long as you are listening to other things, I don't think it's a serious problem.

October 17, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Maybe, but Greek is not a monotone language.. there are accents for a reason in Greek, there use to be more that made the language more elaborate.. sadly it all but lost. If the robotic voice would put the emphacis in the correct vowel would be much better.

My name is Βασίλειος emphasis on the iota not the alpha "Βάσιλειος" or no emphasis at all "Βασιλειος" etc..
In today society have the ability to accuratly record how something sounds, how thing are, without misinterpretation of other people.. I am just asking to stay close where possible.

October 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Elenaki.a

Like I said, I agree with you and I know what you'er saying about accents. The people on Duolingo need to engage with other things too. Don't forget you're asking for this from a free course on a free platform - they're limited with what they can do. Also, the Greek team are probably aware of this, considering most of them are native. If they were able to do more, I think they would.

October 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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Thank you Elenaki.a, as a member of the Greek team and on behalf of all the team. We are trying and as you say there are so many aspects to teaching a language, from a distance, that is without face to face lessons, which even as a long time teacher I could never have dreamt of. A lot of work was put into the course and there is a lot more to be done. We are working daily to improve and add to the course. Right now there are over 6000 sentences in 72 skills all of which have to be reviewed repeatedly as new comments come in. Many users have helped enormously with their tips and advice and by showing us our errors and we are really grateful to you all.

October 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TeiwazGod

Well there you have it, they are probably Greek even more reason to point it out :P /wink

October 20, 2016
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