https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeviPolasak

Western Aramaic?

Aramaic is a language still spoken in Ma'loula, al-Sarkha (Bakhah), and Jubb'adin on Syria's side of the Anti-Lebanon Mountains, (according to Google). It's a language kind of like Greek in a way that many languages took vocabulary from it (including Hebrew and Yiddish).

In religious Jewish schools, students are to learn in Aramaic from ages 7+. They don't learn it like an actual language, rather, they translate a whole page of Aramaic into Yiddish (or English). It would be lovely if Duolingo could add it, since it's still an actual spoken language in certain places, plus it would make learning the Gemara (Jewish scriptures) much easier. Also, Aramaic has a lot of significance in a few religions, and many people's heritage.

October 15, 2016

21 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonFiore

Just to be clear, you're specifically suggesting Western Neo-Aramaic, not just any Aramaic like Assyrian Neo-Aramaic?

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeviPolasak

Idk, we learn ancient Aramaic, some people I know still understand it written, not spoken (since we read it with a Yiddish accent). My old principal could read it fluently. (The ancient one, back when the Jews were exiled, and they wrote the gemara)

I googled it now, it's Western Aramaic

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

Hi, I've added "Western Aramaic" to the guide. Would you mind editing your title so that it specifically says "Western Aramaic"? That would make it easy for people to understand that this is about Western, and not Neo- or Imperial (Ancient) Aramaic. Thank you!

October 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonFiore

Like jrikhal mentioned below, are we sure he's asking for Western Aramaic? He's been talking about both Western and Ancient (which there are several forms) and doesn't seem to be sure which version he is being taught.

October 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lrtward

I assumed Western, since he said he Googled it and learned it was Western. I've also left a message on his activity stream asking for the ISO code of the language he's requesting, so I can correct my guide if I'm mistaken.

October 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zdravstvuytye

This would be a very historical and interesting language if it is added. I would like to see this on duolingo!

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hughcparker

Have a look at this post about how to suggest a language: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/15014194.

Assyrican Neo-Aramaic has already been suggested and added to that page. Is that the same as the language you're suggesting? If so, then if you want to add your upvote to the calls to add a Aramaic course to Duolingo, that's where to do so.

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeviPolasak

It's not the same, it's ancient Aramaic vs modern. It's like Ancient Hebrew vs modern

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

In order to make crystal clear what language exactly you're suggesting, could you share the international standard code ISO639-3 of the language?

You can find it (if it exists) on Wikipedia, here some examples:


Remark: Both Western Neo-Aramaic and Assyrian Neo-Aramaic (which belongs to Eastern Neo-Aramaic family) are modern languages apparently (=accordingly to Wikipedia).

October 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

@Levipolasak: So, is the language that YOU request the "Official/Imperial Aramaic"(*), arc, or the "Western Neo-Aramaic"(**), amw ?

(*) as one could infer due to your message:

As a student in a Jewish school, in super religious schools, we're forced to learn Aramaic from ages 7+. We don't learn it like an actual language, more like translating a whole page of Aramaic to Yiddish (or English)

(**) as one could think due to your message:

I googled it now, it's Western Aramaic

December 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hughcparker

Ah, ok. In that case, get in touch with Lrtward or Jrikhal and ask them to add this post to the language request page.

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emmanuelvega15

Do you like that language? What country are there people who speak it? and how many people speak that language around the world?

October 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Uriel822

I don't believe anyone speaks the language anymore. It is the language in which the Talmud is written. People learn the language to study the Talmud much the same way people learn Biblical Hebrew to study the Bible.

October 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hughcparker

I think it's Western Neo-Aramaic that's being requested. It's still spoken, but only by 15,000 people, according to Wikipedia.

October 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emmanuelvega15

Well probably.

October 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/antonsamuel

Damascus university is holding a course in Aromay (Western Neo-Aramaic) and there is a learning group for the course on facebook (in arabic) with a lot of material on the language using both the latin, arabic and the aramaic alphabets (check files, videos and pictures) here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/483076162042401 Someone also made a basic Memrise course for the language: https://www.memrise.com/course/1004499/the-aramaic-of-jesus-maaloula/ There are some Old testament Psalms (in text) and the book Portrait of Jesus (in text and audio) in Aromay using the syriac alphabet available here: http://www.rinyo.org/Bible/ The New testament in Aromay in the syriac and arabic alphabets is available here: https://scriptureearth.org/data/amw/PDF/amwMaLuliNT-web.pdf

I'm really interested in all things Aramaic and Hebrew so I've updated the wikipedia page on Aromay for a while now, and I've added info about the language and the alphabets used for it there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Neo-Aramaic

November 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pheonixrose

Thats so cool!

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alufalexb

Please add it !

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Saimdusan

Aramaic used in Jewish religious scripture and the Western Aramaic vernacular of Syria are not the same thing.

November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pheonixrose

Yeah, it would great more stuff like this and still keep whats on here.

October 15, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

Interested!

November 5, 2017
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