Catalan on Duolingo
What do you guys think of having Catalan on Duolingo? I'm starting to write an English-to-Catalan dictionary and hopefully, if available in the future, will add Catalan to the languages. It's a beautiful medium between French and Spanish and is spoken in the Catalonia region of Spain. Of course, I'll learn the grammar, syntax, and pronunciation as well. Anybody interested in learning? Tell me what you think, gràcies : )
Hola companys de duoLingo,
Jo sóc en Cristian Jaume i Martí, tinc vint-i-quatre anys, sóc activista sobiranista per Catalunya a l'Assemblea Nacional Catalana als Estats Units d'Amèrica. Vaig nèixer a l'Hospitalet de Llobregat, que pertany a la comarca, Barcelonès, la qual és la més poblada del principat. És allà on trobareu la nostra capital: Barcelona, que té una cultura, un poble, i una història, que al ser sincer, no podríeu imaginar-vos. Si us plau, aneu demonstrant-li el vostre interès en la llengua catalana, perquè aquí se n'establexi un curs, amb el fi d'ensenyar no tan sons el nostre idioma sinó també sobre la cultura catalana i el poble català.. Visca Catalunya, no hi ha terra més ufana sota la capa del sol.
Hi Brando727, if enough people who are fluent in Catalan and English apply, then it will be created through the incubator. If you're fluent make sure to apply.
After there are enough contributors, they will make an English for Catalan speakers course and, then, soon after that, they will make the reverse of that course so that English speakers can learn Catalan.
Note: The best way to bring a course to Duolingo is ask any bilingual people you know to apply.
Here's the main incubator page, in case you want to look around in there, or apply to contribute, if you're bilingual.
This post by I_AM_THE_DOCTOR explains how to navigate the incubator.
This post by Luis Von Ahn (Ceo of Duolingo) answers some common question about the incubator.
Also check out the "New User FAQ", it talks more in depth about adding new languages at section 4
As for the rest of your post, I think Catalan sounds like a very interesting language to learn, although I don't know much about it. I hope enough people sign to make it soon :)
Gràcies. Catalan's a wonderful language, IMO. I plan on learning it, and once I reach fluency, create a course on Duolingo. My ancestors spoke the language a long time ago (They were Aragonese royals in the 1400s) who would've spoken Catalan, so in a way, it's like connecting with them. Of course, with very little resources about the language on the web, finding sources for Catalan could be a challenge. However, this obstacle can be overcome and the course will be made : )
Actually, there's a lot of material in the internet to study Catalan. You can find a lot of tv shows and videos in www.tv3.cat, listen to music (Txarango, Els Amics de les Arts, Manel, La Pegatina, ...), read newspapers (www.ara.cat, http://www.lavanguardia.com/encatala/) and even practice with some material from the Government of Catalonia (www.gencat.cat/llengua/aprendre/). Let me know if you need help!
Wow. Thanks for the sites, BTW, the first one helped a lot. Now, all I need is the motivation to learn Catalan. It's infamous for me to switch languages and never finish. I hope one day this will end and I can actually learn something. Maybe Catalan might be my first second language. All I need is the motivation
the Aragonese royals in the 1400s did not speak catalan! They spoke navarro-aragonese
the closest thing of todays languages are aragonese
It's still living, and a beautiful language. Pick it up:)
This method explains how Spanish for English speakers, has a translation question something like, "The painter touches him" and the anwer is "La pintora toca él", with male painter "El pintor" marked Wrong. The original translation sensibly lost information, but when reversed from English a clue to gender was needed, if the purpose was to have "La pintora" written. I guess it slipped through the net, as the courses I've tried are not riddled with such irritating Q/A's
My name is Cristian Jaume i Martí, I'm 24-years-old. I represent the Catalan National Assembly at the Untied States of America. I was born in l'Hospitalet de Llobregat, which is part of Catalonia's most populated region and urbanized of the principality, Barcelonès, the homeland of our nation's capital city of Barcelona, and whose culture, people, history, and language, are unimaginably incomparable to that of any other part of the world. Please, support my incubator for a Catalan course here on duoLingo, which I propose in the text to follow, so that together we can make duoLingo another resource for the Catalan language, and the Catalan culture, and the Catalan people.
I'm very excited about starting the course for Catalan (either from Spanish or English), have you got news about release? Is there any help that could be provided?
Catalan for Spanish speakers has been released in BETA and I am using that for the moment. It's not ideal as I am a native English speaker and not nearly fluent in Spanish yet, but it is better than nothing for the basics.
Barcelona es Catalunya! Barcelona es España, si, pero lo dejará de ser en un futuro cercano!
I very much wish there was a Catalan course on Duolingo... Does anybody know if there ever will be?
I would love for Catalan to be available for English speakers. Along with Guarani. :D
I also need to learn Catalan in order to understand my friends there. Spanish is not enough. By the way, We in the USA support their independence from Spain, just like the USA split from the rule of Great Britain some years before. :)
just in case you never found out, but if you add the course from the "Español" list, you can study Catalan but with explanations in Spanish. As a level 25, it ought be good practice for you :)
I am also very interested in learning Catalan. While I am learning it on duolingo already, I'm using it as if Spanish is my native tongue. While I do speak Spanish very well, I would prefer to learn Catalan in my own tongue once I get to more difficult levels.
Would you mind telling me how you added the Catalan course through spanish? I've been trying to figure out how to do it for the past 20 minutes but I'm so confused! :)
How can I sign up for Catalan for English speakers? Puedo tenerlo pronto? I'm going to Barcelona en Octubre. Where do I go to get this?
I would love to see Catalan as an option. I have been learning it and it would help greatly.
I'm a native English speaker hoping to live in Barcelona again someday and would love to learn Catalan before returning! :)
It's great that there's a Catalan for Spanish speakers course, and I'm working my way through that slowly (if nothing else, it seems to be sharpening my Spanish skills!) - however, it would seem relatively simple to translate the Spanish parts of that course into English, to make a Catalan for English speakers course - even I could manage it for the lessons I've done so far!
Is there somewhere this is already happening, and can I help, or would I need to be a fluent Catalan speaker (not likely to ever happen) before I can contribute anything even at a basic level?
I'd love to see a English to Catalan course. I'm going to start the Spanish-Catalan course in the meantime, but it would be much easier to be able to learn in my mother-tongue; it's not great getting Spanish and Catalan mixed up in my head! Further, non-Spanish speaking English speakers could learn Catalan too, if we had a English-Catalan course! :)
I'm an English speaker, and am very interested in learning Catalan. I'm not sure if I am posting this correctly or not. My apologies if I am posting in the wrong place.
I'm desperate for a Catalan for English speakers' course! My partner is Catalan and I'm finding it difficult to grasp the language. If there is a Klingon course on duolingo, surely duolingo can organise a Catalan one!
I have now been trying to start the Catalan from English course for more than a year. I signed up to be part of the team, and so did some colleages of mine. Even the Catalan government promoted this iniciative through websites and social media, so I guess more people than I know have signed up too. After more than a year without absolutely no answer, I can only conclude that, sadly, Duolingo is not listening. It is a very big shame. We could help a language -and its speakers- in need, but it doesnt seem there is any interest to let us do it.
I would LOVE to learn Catalan (if I ever manage to finish french!!!). We sometimes holiday in the south of France (about an hour or so from Spain) and many people there speak Catalan too. It would be great to be able to speak with them.
Definitely! That is the only language that I want on Duolingo. The others I can live without. I am going to Catalonia in June so it would be really helpful.
The only thing is, you should probably be a native speaker of the language, and if not you should definitely be extremely proficient and fluent.
Thank you all for your posts expressing your interests. Fortunately, this is under the popular section on the Duolingo discussion. Unfortunately, I can't speak Catalan, and would honestly love to be able to speak all the Romance languages. Hopefully, this will become very popular and grab the attention of other members who can perhaps speak Catalan and want to create a course. To Catalan speakers: Please create a Catalan course to preserve your language and teach it to the world. Keep commenting so we can make this dream happen! : )
I too would like to see a Catalan course provided here; now that its independence movement is receiving more and more interest from the international community, I think it is not only convenient but also our responsibility, to see that the people here on duoLingo have at their disposal, a Catalan course, which would thereby teach not only our language, but also our culture, the two of which go hand-in-hand. I hereby propose my incubator for a Catalan course for English speakers, and subsequently for Spanish speakers, and I volunteer myself as a contributor to these proposed courses as a translator Catalan - English (to and from), and Catalan - Spanish (to and from). Having the rare privileged opportunity of being a native speaker of Catalan and English, and having learned Spanish by acquisition since I was quite young. I extend to you all the resources that I have at my disposal, to teach and collaborate in a Catalan language course.
Cristian Jaume i Martí
Hey Cristian, have you gotten a reply from Duolingo on a Catalan language course?
Luckily Catalan is similar to Spanish. I would love to do the Catalan course as soon as it's released for the mobile app. I lived in Catalunya for 9-10 months in 2010. I spoke Spanish at the time but didn't bother to learn any Catalan other than what I saw on street signs. I really regret this. After mastering both Spanish and Russian I think Catalan would be quick to learn and fun. Good luck i visca Catalunya!
Moltes gràcies i benvingut, DSCHUSSR! Hopefully my incubator is approved. I've already submitted it.
I would like to see that course, too. Catalonia is a great place for vacations!
Any news on this? I'm willing to help anyway I can to make this course possible. What's stopping the Catalan classes for English speakers at this point?
A good time to express support for a Catalan course here. Would be great to learn this language.
I have expressed my desire for a Catalan for English speakers several times, all to no avail. I have tried the Catalan for Spanish speakers course but my Spanish is not really good enough to do it justice.
I would also love it to have Catalan on Duolingo. I think it's a beautiful language and I reached some basic fluency in it before, but since I don't use it anymore it's getting more and more difficult to recall, and Duolingo would be very helpful to refresh it.
Hopefully they will find a few people willing to contribute, but as they are currently limiting the number of new languages in the incubator, I guess we'll have to have a little more patience.
Hello! Yes please!!!! I lived in Barcelona for 2 years and need help keeping the language up. If I can help in any way, let me know.
Yes! You can! How much of the vocab do you remember? You can apply for a Catalan course in the duolingo incubator if you can still speak fairly efficiently. Another thing you can do is to try to connect with Catalan speakers on duolingo to chat with to maintain your skills. Hope it helps : )
Catalan is not a medium between French and Castillian: Catalan is just another neo-latin language, and, as for all neo-latin languages it started to differentiate from Latin independently in the course of late antiquity. In fact, the important words that sound the same, even late loans like 'guerra' (esp and ita 'guerra' fr 'guerre', in this case from a germanic language) didn't pass from one language to another 'afterwards' but sound the same because were already used widely all through southern Europe before the Roman Empire collapsed. Catalan cannot be defined as a medium of anything: but it can be said that is very similar to some catalan dialects spoken on the west coast of Sardinia and phonetically comes far closer to the language of Provence and Italian than to Castillian or French. I'm Italian and if they speak slowly I just get nearly everything they say
I know there's already a Catalan Course for Spanish speakers and being almost done with the Spanish course (I might finish by the end of this month or next month) I'm intrigued to learn Catalan that way. If I can Catalan through that and come back and contribute to a Catalan For English Speakers Course, I would love to do that! However, I was planning on learning Portuguese and Italian before Catalan. Also, I feel like it's a lot cooler already if you learn Spanish first because then you really get the feel. I already speak a lot more French than Spanish and with Spanish almost done, learning Catalan would probably be a very quick thing for me. I honestly don't know how into it I am, I don't like having to switch languages all the time, but I guess if I understand both and practice two at the same time, why not? So, I would love a course for English speakers, but if that's not going to happen, I'd rather just encourage everyone to learn Spanish first and learn Catalan that way. It's kind of a win-win situation. But I wouldn't mind having it in English. Cool language! I'll be following the discussion!
I am from Barcelona, but moved to the US when I was younger. I have been trying to learn Catalan for YEARS not and I would LOVE LOVE to have it on Duolingo! When will it be available?!? SO EXCITED
I would love to be able to take a Catalan course here. I actually lived in Catalonia for three months many years ago. I've also studied Catalan here in college. Would love to be able to refresh and review my language skills in the language with a course here.
I suppose i have to start form somewhere right? I just checked out this immersion in Spanish and I was intrigued BUT there is only so far I can go past LUCK without the English language anyway- right now just isn't a good time for me obviously...
Has there been any progress with this? I would really like to begin learning asap.
6 million people speak Catalan, from Salse in Southern France, through Perpignan, up into Andorra and down into Spain as far as Valencia, it is the language of the Balearic islands - Majorca, Minorca, Ibiza, it is also spoken in one part of Sardinia. I speak fluent french and am learning Spanish but where I live (Perpignan) Catalan is very useful . I'm not convinced that a prior knowledge of Castillan is necessary or even desirable before attacking Catalan in order to avoid confusion.
After visiting Catalonia two years ago and studying Spanish for seven years, ¡I would LOVE to learn Catalan!
I'd love to learn Catalan. Being in the US, it's difficult to find anything that teaches the language. It being offered through Dueling would be great.
How's the progress on this? I'd love to be able to learn Catalan on the mobile apps :) Visca catalunya lliure!
I speak Spanish and have lived in Spain. Barcelona is one of my favorite cities in the world, and Catalan is such a beautiful language. I have taught myself a little bit from reading Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone in Catalan, but I would love to learn more about the grammar and more real vocabulary! :D
I would really love to have a Catalan for English speakers course soon. I have completed the course Catalan for Spanish speakers. This was good practice for both languages for me BUT my real issue is untangling Catalan from Spanish. I have lived in Barcelona for more than 4 years, have a Catalan husband and young Catalan-native speaking polyglot children. I understand a lot but when I open my mouth to actually speak here my Spanish vocabulary creeps in. Barcelonis do not like this! I also leaned fairly heavily on the help features for the more advanced Spanish grammar even though I could have easily answered in English. It would be wonderful to reinforce my Catalan without translating it through Spanish. I don't think I'm good enough for the incubator unfortunately, but I am keen to go on. Please let me know.
P.S. Original poster's characterization of what Catalan is would really tick off a lot of Catalan native speakers, but I kind of understand what he means to say and I'm guessing he's heard the feedback by now!
I love developing my German skills on Duolinguo! Catalan would also be a great addition for leisure/work purposes. I read below in this discussion it is bilinguals needed to push forward with getting English<>Catalan, so will mention this to friends in Catalonia. Fingers crossed!
yes. I think it's great for those who would like to visit Barcelona. Some people are unaware that Catalan is widely spoken in Barcelona
I'm from Catalonia, therefore catalan native speaker and I have a good english level. Is any movement stirring up to create the english-catalan course in the incubator? I'd love to be part of it!!
Ja direu, si algú en sap alguna cosa!
I live in southern Virginia USA and I would really like to learn Catalan from a Duolingo Catalan-English course. I have tried a little of the Catalan-Spanish course but my Spanish is not good enough to work well with it. I also do the Catalan to English course in Clozemaster but Clozemaster is a fill-in-the-blanks course rather than having the various activities of Duolingo.
I have been doing exactly the same thing as you, and agree that a Catalan to English Duolingo course would be just the ticket, as they say. Funny to see others trying the same course of action, but that proves there is a need for the comprehensive training you get from Duo.
Apunteu-vos a aquest grup de Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DuolingoCatalaEnglish/
Junts farem més pressió!
Apunteu-vos a aquest grup de Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DuolingoCatalaEnglish/
Ja m'hi he apuntat! Som-hi tots, fem-ho possible! No em puc creure que encara no siguem prous...
I am doing the Spanish for English speakers, and would love to learn Catalan too. I tried to add the Catalan for Spanish speakers but the app told me my whole platform would switch to Spanish, and I'm not fluent enough yet.
I've applied like 4 times to help and make the course of Cataln for English speakers in the last few years and I haven't got even a reponse from the team of Duolingo. You can see on the incubator many languages that say 1, 2 or 3 contributors. Why those courses are there and not Catalan for English speakers? I think it's just to include it, even if it's just with a couple of people strating it (I'd do it) and once the course appears on the incubator and more people who knows both languages see it they will also help for sure
Join our pressure group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DuolingoCatalaEnglish/
Join our pressure group :)
I really want to learn Catalan, I was learning it when I lived in Spain after learning Spanish. I don't know how the courses are set up on duolingo, but would it be worth contacting language schools in Barcelona?
Estimat learnfrenchy101, Major Catalan universities as well as the Catalan regional government already provide their own (and official, and free) online Catalan resources. I doubt they would be much help here; nevertheless, I've sent duoLinguo my proposed Catalan-English course, and hopefully it is well received.
bump! I'd love to practice Catalan. I lived in Valencia, which speaks Valenciano, a form of catalan.
A mí també me agradaria que aquí la gent tingués a l'abast un curs de català; ara que el seu moviment cap a la independència es troba amb cada cop més interès de la comunitat internacional, crec que seria no tan sols convenient sinó de també de responsabiltiat, que aquí la gent aquí a duoLingo disposés d'un curs d'aprenenatge del nostre idioma i aiximateix la nostura cultura. M'apunto a aquesta iniciativa, i puc servir-li com a traductor tant de l'anglès al català com del català a l'anglès. A més a més, amb el fi de realitzar aquesta iniciativa, compteu vosaltres amb la meva ajuda, la meva col·laboració, i amb el meu proposat "incubator" d'un curs de llengua catalana.
Cristian Jaume i Martí
Catalan is a really beautiful language and I would like to see it on Duolingo. Gracias Mi Amigo!
Absolutely! I would love to see català on Duolingo!! I'm Italian, and a near-native speaker of English. I started to learn català years ago, as it's incredibly similar to Friulian, a minority language spoken here in the North-East of Italy (truly, the similarities are staggering!) and completely fell in love with it. I would love to have a place to practice it so I don't forget! :) Sort amb el projecte!
I would love it if there were a Catalan/Valencian course on Duolingo (along with courses for Galician and Basque)!
I am planning to live in Catalunya (Barcelona) next year. I'd like to learn Catalan :)
How's Barcelona, are you there yet? I was hoping to visit again this summer, but didn't make it in the end. Trying to decide whether to try a September visit, or wait until next spring/summer now.
Yes! Barcelona is awesome! I am staying in Passeig de Gràcia for now and the city is so beautiful :) I will be here for 8 months but I definitely want to move here permanently one day :)
Aqui (http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/ca/es/status) esta el incubador (?) par el árbol español->catalan. Creo que si quereis que el curso se acabe pronto ustedes podrian ayudar a doktorkampi que de momento esta trabajando solo en el curso.
Porto deu anys a Barcelona. M'agrada el català. Crec que el parlo bé. Però fer exercisis dia a dia seria millor. Jo faig tots els meus cursos des de l'anglès. Falta molt per a tenir-lo? Gràcies. De totes maneres!
Va a haber un grupo en facebook para los que aprenden catalan desde espanol? Me juntaria con el si existiera
I would like to see Catalan on Duolingo pretty soon. I am very fascinated by the language and I am actually visiting the Catalonia in a couple months and although since there isn't a course on duolingo , I am learning what I can find on youtube but, yes I would love to see a Catalan course here soon ! :)
Please do! Yeey I am so excited about it! I am now having a Spanish course, but if there was Catalan I would prefer to learn Catalan before Spanish. Looking forward to it!
Would love this! My aunt is a native speaker and I'd love to be able to have conversations with her in it.
I would already have signed up for a Duolingo English to Catalan course if it were available. Please, Duolingo, make a Catalan course available for us English speakers.
Any news on Catalan for English speakers yet? Does the project even exist? Or the whole idea was limited to Catalan course for Spanish speakers?
Mind you, I've never studied Spanish in my life, but I do study Catalan at my university. In order to improve my skills I signed up for Spanish to Catalan course here as it was the only one available. Thus I am in a really silly situation now. Instead of progressing with my Catalan, I am forced to study Spanish to get through to another level! But I do not want to study any Spanish, this was never my aim!
I have been asking this question for over 2 years, but no one seems to know what's going on, its very frustrating, as I liked the Spanish course, but I'm living in an area that speaks Catalan/Valenciana so really would be good to start with Catalan!!!!!
Does the project even exist? Or is the whole idea limited to Catalan for Spanish speakers? I am curious.
I would love this. I have used Memrise to learn a few words and have got the Catalan flag by my username by translating the Spanish of the Catalan for Spanish speakers course to English using google translate, but obviously it's not possible to progress very far doing that!
I support a Duolingo course for Catalan for English speakers. I live in French Catalonia, speak French and am English mother tongue. I'm learning Spanish with Duolingo. Catalan is widely spoken here, especially in the smaller towns, and I would love to learn it.
I am a native English speaker. I don't speak Spanish. I'm trying to learn Catalan, and it would be so helpful if Duolingo offered Catalan for English speakers. Thanks for considering it!
I am studying catalá from español but would like to study from English also. don't Jhon
Very interested! I work in Catalonia sometimes. Would be a brilliant idea! Molt be!
I think it's a good idea, but it should be noted that Catalan is already available for Spanish speakers. So, one could learn Spanish first, before Catalan. This would actually make a bit of sense, noting linguistic similarities. However, for non-Spanish speakers, a Catalan course would definitely broaden horizons.
Eric, I really do not get you. Why on earth somebody interested in Catalan should study Spanish first? Why not Mandarin or Tamazight? What's the logic? Why should I waste couple of years of my life studying Spanish, just to start doing Catalan? Even more, doing both Catalan and Spanish at the same time only guarantees confusion for a foreigner.
Besides, you seem to be very ignorant of how the courses at duolingo are structured. The grammar section relies very heavily on the native grammar intuition, so things that function the same way in your native language and the target language are not explained. However, things that are "obvious" for a Spanish speaker are not-so-obvious for a native English speaker and require a full exposition. Even if someone went to such absurd length as to learn Spanish first, s/he will not have enough of Spanish intuition to follow a Catalan course designed specifically for Spanish speakers.
Hola Everyone, its all well and good everyone commenting etc. on this theme, but is anyone actually working on it and when is it going to be ready, if I wait to long ill be 6 feet under lol. I think I commented on this over 3 years ago!!! does Duolingo read this or are we all wasting our time????
I would already be doing Catalan to English on Duolingo if it had been made available. As I will be 80 years old in less than 4 weeks, I do not believe that I will ever get the opportunity. My Spanish is not good enough to manage the Catalan to Spanish course competently, although I have tried to do so.
So sad to hear that, Charles... I would like to see this course ready, but first DL needs to make it available on the incubator. When we created the Catalan to Spanish course it took us 6 months, and we were one of the fastest teams in doing it so quickly. In the meantime, you can give Parla.cat a chance. Cheers!
Thanks for the information. I clicked on the link and bookmarked it on my Mac.