"Ich werde dich nach der Hochschule nach Europa schicken."

Translation:I will send you to Europe after college.

February 10, 2013

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How do you know this isn't "I will send you to college after Europe"--meaning "I will send you to college [after I send you to] Europe"? Or does that not work in German?


Because "nach der Hochschule" doesn't mean "to college". In Standard German, "nach" in the sense of "to" is almost exclusively used with cities/countries/continents (e.g. "nach Deutschland"), not with other places. Therefore, "nach der Hochschule" means "after college". "Nach Europa" can theoretically both mean "after [I send you to] Europe" or "to Europe", but "I will send you after Europe after college" would be nonsensical.



Thank you. I see, I got caught in the distinction between "nach" and "zu" again, and just when I thought I had learned it. I will have to focus on that. This sentence may be just the right example to get this aspect clear in my head.


That sounds good :). If it makes you feel any better, I'm surrounded by native German speakers who use nach in the "wrong" places all the time. I sometimes do that, too. My grandmother almost always used "nach" when talking about directions of any kind. She also mixed up the dative and accusative cases a lot. That was of course because in her dialect, "nach" ("noh") is indeed the correct preposition and there is just one form for both dative and accusative.


That's interesting. What was your grandmother's dialect?


Low Rhenisch (Niederrheinisch). There are differences from village to village, but all these varieties are closer to Dutch than to Standard German.



That IS interesting. We have variations like that in U.S. English, too. I went to a large state university in the middle of a mountainous state. It draws students from all over the state, who get a kick out of comparing their respective terms, syntax, and accents.


From my experience, people just compare the dialects themselves when moving between different states, mostly vocabs and pronounciation. The small differences among villages fade, in my opinion, since younger people aren't as involved with one specific local dialect like their grandparents, for example, who grew up with very distinct dialects. That's just my experience with swabian and might itself be a local occurance though.


I think it's generally like that in the U.S., with the exception of a few relatively isolated pockets and also Amish communities (which speak a Germanic dialect but also English).

Sometimes accents are quite different, or manner of speaking. I lived for awhile in another mountainous area that, until recently, had been very poor and isolated. It was months before I understood anything that the locals said to me. I doubt they understood me, either. I also had to learn to speak much more slowly: if I forgot and spoke at my usual rate, I think I frightened people!

Television changes all that, though: and as you say, younger people are more involved with a national culture than older people are.


How do you know which nach means "to" and which nach refers to "after [a period of time]"?


Should my answer be wrong if i wrote "Hoch Schule " as two words?

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"nach der Hochschule" - is that dativ or Akkusativ?

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