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https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09

English for Greek Just added to the incubator!!

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I was just checking the incubator and I noticed Greek has just been added! I'm really excited about this language.

02/18/14

4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Julika
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ευχαριστίες

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian
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I think that says something like Eucharist, but i'm not sure lol. My dyslexia has always kept me from reading the lower case letters, but the capital letters I can read almost as well as Latin.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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in the latin alphabet it is "eucharisties." It means thanks.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themangeorge
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I thought it was pronounced more like "Efcharisties" Thanking a large group of people, also formally thanking any size. The casual way would be "Efcharisto" addressing a singular entity. I might be wrong though.

Anyways, entirely too excited for this course. Wish I could contribute.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ThirstyTM
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Indeed, that's pretty much how it's pronounced.

However, the (practical) difference is that "Ευχαριστώ"(Efcharisto) is a verb that literally means "I thank" and it can be directly preceded by the pronoun, ie "Με/Σε/Τον/Την ευχαριστώ" (Ι thank me/you/him/her; singular), or "Μας/Σας/Τους/Τις ευχαριστώ (I thank us/you/them[m.]/them[f]; plural).

Ευχαριστίες on the other hand, is a noun and is mostly used in a phrase, in more formal situations.

Source: I'm Greek.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themangeorge
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Yes that makes sense now, I was on the right track. I'm a Greek School Dropout. So my grammar isn't perfect but I still can understand well. I'm wondering how helpful reverse translating from greek to english will help my greek skills?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheBryce

Good luck to the moderators: makmar and mptmpt!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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Thanks! (ευχαριστώ!)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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What exactly does that translate to? The only thing I know that word from is church.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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Ευχαριστώ means thank you.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Thanks! That's actually extremely interesting. :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miwade

Yes the use in the church context would be giving thanks to God for Christ's sacrifice.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GarciaAdriana.

Cool! that is good to know! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

Very nice! I applied to contribute as well, as a native speaker, but I guess my application wasn't good enough :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gggggg3
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same here my friend :( .oh well i guess they will probably need us in beta..(και το ελεγα επρεπε στην αιτηση να βαλω και λινκς με φωτο απο τα proficiency για εχτρα λαδωμα!χαχαχχα)

anyway mods good luck with the course!!σας ευχομαι απο καρδιας ολα να πανε καλα!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

Ξέρεις τι; Ίσως φταίει που δεν έβαλες τόνους στην αίτηση :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielPere528188
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if you speak another language besides english maybe you will get in xp

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

Well as I said, I'm a native Greek speaker.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Hey, don't forget you may be accepted as a contributor later on!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

I hope so! I'd love to help.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielPere528188
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well yes , I was trying to say that if you spoke per example Portuguese, you could make a greek -portuguese and vice versa course! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/secondguess
secondguess
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Didn't think this one would be next! I am really curious what goes into the decision regarding the order in which the courses are released to the incubator.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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Me either. I was expecting a reverse language of some sort, but I'm really glad its Greek. I started learning Koine Greek (Biblical Greek) in college but didn't keep it up so I lost most of it. I know this is modern Greek but I'm still excited to pick it up again.

I guess they pick new languages based on the popularity of the language and whether or not there are any contributors applying?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/secondguess
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Greek is on my language bucket list so I'm pleased. Just wish I knew where my other bucket list languages stand on duo's priorities!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

What other languages are on your list? Greek was one I looked at briefly just so I could understand what my boss was saying lol.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/secondguess
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Aside from Greek and the currently-available Spanish, French, Portuguese and German, I also want to learn Russian, Afrikaans, Croatian, Hebrew, Norwegian, Arabic, and Japanese!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AshtonHynes
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I think it really depends on if there are contributors willing to start up a course- like, say, therws no pre-determined order , but Greek is happening because a contributor or a few volunteered to start the course

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

That's exactly it. There are a few languages I would like to improve, jog my memory on languages I've not used for years, such as welsh which I used to be almost fluent in (lived there for 5 years when I was a kid) and ones I would be interested in learning that have not been put up on here yet. The site is still gaining interest. They say there are around 22million users here, and around 8 of which are considered 'active'. Looking at the courses stats, I would imagine the majority of them are US. The number of courses here are increasing rapidly because people have learnt that they actually work, have learnt something and want to give something back. It's a wonderful system, it truly is.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/krispykracker

I just read an article and it said about 12.5 are active. Oh well. The more the merrier! Have a lingot!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

Then perhaps the information I read is outdated. I believe it was Wikipedia. Perhaps it's not been updated for a little while. Either way, it proves my point that popularity is on the increase as are the courses available :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/spyros99
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I am native greek speaker.I just applied.I would really like to help guys:P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jsprwstr
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Can't wait till Ancient Greek comes around! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themangeorge
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I don't know the likeliness of dead languages appearing on here. The website's goal is to translate web articles. Since I doubt any web articles are written in Latin or Ancient Greek, there would be no use in creating a course for such languages. Although you never know....

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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Well, there are not many, but there are some. "vikipaedia," several news sites, a couple of chat sites, and many sites with old literature, obviously in the public domain, to translate. Mostly in Latin, but also a few in ancient Greek. These are pulled from my web browser's links.

http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Pagina_prima

http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/

http://areena.yle.fi/radio/1931339

http://www.dradiowissen.de/latein-nachrichten.93.de.html

http://www.radiovaticana.va/tedesco/nuntii_latini.htm

http://codex-excerptorius.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/nuntii-latini-et-graeci.html

http://www.radiobremen.de/nachrichten/latein/index.html

http://avitus.alcuinus.net/schola_latina/invitatio_la.php

http://guidowoolnough.wordpress.com/

http://www.circulus.fr/opera/fabulae/dexter/dexter_1.php

http://linguaeterna.com/la

http://atticherald.blogspot.com.es/

http://www.akwn.net/

There are hundreds of years worth of Latin online on various sites that has not been translated into English or other modern European languages, from when Latin was the scholarly lingua franca of Europe during most of the last 2000 years. That would provide plenty of material. Whether it would be worthwhile for Duolingo is another question. There are people who could handle the "incubation" work. Since it would be volunteer work, maybe it could be possible. Definitely Duolingo for Latin and Greek would be great for students.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themangeorge
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First of all, excellent response to my comment.!!! Great research, never knew this stuff existed.

I would love learning some Latin as well as Ancient Greek. I'm assuming there are many other languages that would take precedence over these, but at the rate Duolingo is expanding it seems like a realistic possibility that dead languages such as these could be developed into courses on Duolingo.

I know many people who learn Ancient Greek in order to read Biblical and Socratic texts.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mcdonnellliam

Level-headed correspondence. Thumbs up, guys.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mcdonnellliam

Slogger's two-hundred-and-seven day streak by the way: beast-mode.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gelle89

As a history major, I would LOVE it if Latin became available here. There may not be many websites currently in Latin but there are so many old documents that have never been translated. Also, If I want to one day learn all the romance languages, it'd be a lot easier if I knew some Latin.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mcdonnellliam

My sentiments exactly. Someone give this girl a lingot.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jsprwstr
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And yet, Klingon seems to be on the shortlist for next languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mcdonnellliam

I weep for humanity.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/krispykracker

People will still learn the "main languages" (the original 5) and still translate those. Duolingo having more courses by contributors, who do it for free, is helping them, not hurting.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andro0
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WOW! I never would have thought Greek would be the next language! I'm intrigued!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VWieVendetta
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And now there are officially 30 language pairs on Duolingo, in some way or another. And to think that prior to the incubator, there were only 9, and initially started out with like 5!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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Its incredible how fast the languages have expanded. We may even have Spanish for Portuguese and German for Russian in beta within two weeks!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VWieVendetta
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Not to mention English for Japanese, the reverse course of which has been easily one of the most requested!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Red_Rat_Writer

Next add Hebrew and Armenian, and people can start reading the bible in its original language!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian
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The bible wasn't written in Armenian.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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I think Red_Rat meant Aramaic. The three original languages of the bible are hebrew (old testament), greek (new testament), and aramaic (some quotes).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jin__wu
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I spent 7 months learning Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic and another 9 months reading through the entire Bible in the three languages. I can say right now that modern Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic are different from the forms found in the Bible (especially Greek). Even for Aramaic, the Aramaic found in Jesus' time was different from the Aramaic in the Old Testament, which is different from the Aramaic in the Peshitta. I'm not sure if we'll be able to use duolingo for Biblical Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic unfortunately.

I would recommend the following books as intros though: Basics of Biblical Greek By Mounce, Basics of Biblical Hebrew by Pratico Pelt, Basics of Biblical Aramaic by Pelt

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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I agree. I have the Mounce book for Koine Greek as well as his workbook to study biblical greek. I am however much better at biblical hebrew. Thanks for the book suggestions. I will check them out.

Once the modern versions are all added to duo, they may introduce the biblical ones. I don't see it happening though for several years.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ynhockey
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I applied for Hebrew quite a while ago but haven't received a response yet. To be sure, learning modern Hebrew won't let you easily read the Bible, but you will understand much of it if you read slowly. You will however intuitively understand many intricacies which didn't make it (or made it incorrectly) into most translations.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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Ynhockey שלום

אני שמח לראות שמישהו הגיש בקשה לעברית! למדתי כמה עברית

המקבילה של ב 'אולפן אני באמת מקווה שאתה יכול hebrewonline.comמ

.לתרום לקורס על צמד! למידה מאושרת

By the way duo doesn't support right to left languages very well in these comments :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

I'm sure those languages will come eventually, it's just a case of people willing to assist. It would be interesting to read the bible in its original language, just to see how accurate the translation is.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchAddict7

Cool! Hope they do the reverse course, too!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/venerai

i am just learning greek, it would be perfect!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Awesome! This might just be the next language on my to-do list.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jaye16
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Here's a lingot for the messenger. Ευχαριστώ!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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Ευχαριστώ!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dan_The_Man1912

FINALLY! MY FACE LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE WHEN I SAW THAT! If anyone speaks greek please apply to be a moderator, the more people the quicker we'll get this and its reverse course. MOU ARESEI PARA POLY AUTO, EIMAI ALVANOS KAI THELW NA KSERW ELLHNIKA POLY. SAGAPO

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/parapluie.

Fantastique! Thanks for telling! Now I could learn a different language!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ImmortalKyodai

I cant wait to start learning Greek!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tonywangtj
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I like the calligraphy of the Greek letters!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samy1979
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I know some Ancient Greek and can read it a little. Maybe it would be fun to learn a little Modern Greek. :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/natasaa

Yes, that's true, your knowledge of Ancient Greek would be valuable for you since it's the root of modern Greek. But bare in mind that modern Greek seem to be another language at times.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Soolrak
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Yeah, but I want Greek for English (or Spanish) speakers :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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The start of this language in the incubator means that greek for english will be coming soon. A few weeks after english for greek hits beta, greek for english should start incubating. Judging by some of the other languages in the incubator, hopefully greek for english will be in beta in about 4-6 months.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Soolrak
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4-6 MONTHS!? I don't think so, I think it will be in Beta in maybe 1 month, if not less. I don't know for how long will the Beta courses be there. I hope they go into the 3rd and last phase as soon as possible.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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I think you are right for the english for greek speakers course being in beta in about a month, but I was referring to the greek for english speakers course going to beta.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Soolrak
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Aaah, I see. Sorry... Many months though :/

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/manjas
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where is this incubator? Ευχαριστώ!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Here it is: http://incubator.duolingo.com/

You can also get to it from the main page of the discussions and you can see all the courses being created if you hover over the language flag and select All language courses. :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/manjas
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merci :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

Just to clarify, this is English for Greek, not Greek for English, correct? Meaning the English will not learn Greek but the Greek to learn English? Sorry if that's completely incorrect, I don't really know how this place works yet haha.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

Yes, but the reverse course will come after this is completed. I think that's the way it works.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

Wonderful. Will definitely have to check it out then. I think the hardest part will probably be writing, especially coming from English.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VWieVendetta
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Coming from English it's really not that hard; I can't imagine it'd take longer than a week to get used to it. A lot of the letters are the same/similar, and the ones that aren't are rather simple.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bnvdarklord

I always wondered how Duolingo will handle different alphabets like Greek, Russian, Chinese etc. I'm guessing they'll have some lesson dedicated just for this.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

I would imagine so. Reading and writing in say, Spanish and French is fairly simple because their alphabet is similar in some ways. If it wasn't for the accents they would be identical so the transition is fairly easy.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Don't worry about messing up the directions, everyone keeps doing it and getting confused :-)

I tend to write Greek-->English, which is clear but not very elegant...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/richardchyan

Don't expect the reverse courses to come anytime soon. I'd expect it to take at least a year til those come out.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto
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Luis has said the first ones should start incubating a couple weeks from now: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1627314. He's also said making the reverse courses should be quicker since most of the content is the same: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1377701. The main challenge is structuring the lessons & getting speech synthesizers & recognizers but hopefully that shouldn't take a year.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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A year? It depends which. For those already in Beta it is just a matter of waiting for the adequate tools to be given to them (such as choosing which lessons go where) before they can be started, and then they will already have a lot of sentences translated already which will make it quicker. A year would be for courses which aren't already out, which will then be released sometime this year, finished later and reversed after that

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PrivateMufasa

I wouldn't imagine it would come out close to each other. I was just wondering how this works when bringing out new language courses.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NormanLG07

Wow! That's great ;D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sarah_Lin

great! are you learning it?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roymesac
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Where do you go to see those languages? I went to the incubator and there wasn't anything.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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That's very helpful. Thanks.

And thanks for working on Greek. It's great that you and the others on the team are doing this. My brother is studying modern Greek, and this will be a great help to him.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/inkybaba
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Very excited! My mom is learning Ancient Greek for her theology class online and after she wants to do modern greek! I hope there will be a reverse course in some time!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EbeneezerAl

So, in point of clarification: Are they working on a course for English speakers to learn Greek, or Greek speakers to learn English? The title seems to me to suggest one thing and the initial post the other. I tried to find a comment answer the question for me but I didn't see it, though I admittedly may have overlooked it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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It is English for Greek speakers.

Check here for new languages, by the way: http://incubator.duolingo.com/ :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EbeneezerAl

Thank you.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Joeyshere
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Awesome!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/arrei
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cannot wait !!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SamanthaEAngel

Greek is great! I will surely take this language as well. I love learning new alphabets :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HollyFrost3

can Indonesian please please please be added

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HollyFrost3

yey thanks

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roymesac
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I think that Hindi should be added.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrugalMussel272

what language you speaking gul

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aorejas
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I want Greek for English speakers! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bensalem1

excuse me , i want to learn English ; if you can help me

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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What is your native language?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jorma1998b

sounds promising. I look forward to learn some greek. Are they working in latin? Latin was the predominant language in the Mediterranean 2k years ago. It's a "dead language"; 50 years ago, after CV2, the mass stop the latin and gave way to the local language, so that people would understand what they said.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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No Latin yet. Hopefully that will be released soon (and hopefully I'll be on the team ;-) ).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roymesac
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Can you add a language to the incubator?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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You have to apply to add a language. The Incubator isn't a place to create languages, but rather courses for existing ones. So, no conlangs unless they're majorly popular (Klingon, Na'vi, Quenya, etc.).

You have to be bilingual to apply. Go ahead and check it out here, if you like: http://incubator.duolingo.com/apply

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperSwipe
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I can't wait for it to be the other way around!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/blucamels

Bravo!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MaroMarschall

Just checked - Greek for English speakers is not yet available, is it?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/susan.karalis

I I would so like to learn Greek. When will it be available?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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English for Greek speakers is already out in beta. If you are ambitious enough to learn it from a reverse course, you can start it here: https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/el/Learn-English-Online. No one knows when the greek for english speakers will appear in the incubator, but I too am hoping it will be very soon. Once the course is introduced in the incubator it will take about 110 days to be available for you to start the course in beta.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/saviana05

I wouls like to learn english as I am greek

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jovanna1955

.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/susannahfaithc

Thats so great! is it new testament greek?

3 years ago