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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Free Russian Course Now Available

This works great in tandem with Duolingo. I did the French version a while ago and am thrilled that they've now brought out the Russian version.

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November 11, 2016

30 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

I'm addicted both to this one and to Memrise.

If you also want to learn to swear in Russian, and get presented with sentences such as It's hard to love somebody when you don't know whether they love you as much as you love them (where you only have to fill out one of the words, thank goodness), you should also try Clozemaster, which is also free.

I normally do Memrise on my Android, and Clozemaster and Lingvist on my computer, but I've recently had a chance to beta test the new Lingvist app which is very, very nice. Lingvist also keeps track of some of the kinds of stats people have wanted Duolingo to show: total time learned, time learned per day, number of words learned, etc.

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Clozemaster... never even heard of that one! Thanks :)

Good to hear that Lingvist are working so hard at improving their offering. I know that eventually, they will charge for their courses, so it's great to be able to get in there while it's still free. I can put up with a few bumps ;-)

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

Yup, I rushed through Lingvist's French course back in the day both because it was great and because I knew they'd start charging at some point. But I can't rush Russian. ;-)

I'm also doing their Spanish course -- it's interesting to see that 50 Spanish cards a day takes me about 8 minutes every day (the figure stays amazingly constant, whether it feels easy or hard, I'm tired or not, etc.), whereas 50 cards of Russian takes me an equally constant 13 minutes...

With Clozemaster, I recommend the "Fluency fast track" for those languages that have one.

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Haha, I've noticed just how much longer a ration of Russian is taking me to complete compared to the French!

Thanks for the rec :)

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bookrabbit

it doesn't work well on my kindle, the keyboard hides what you need to translate and it won't scroll:(

Memrise's own new Russian courses however are wonderful, starting as a review and then covering different material. if you ignore what you know already you don't get too bogged down with endless review. it is especially good for listening practice as lots of videos of sentences are included.

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Hi there! I've already signed up to the Memrise one, and will start once I'm done with another site. Otherwise it gets too much ;-)

I do Lingvist on my computer, so I've not had those problems you describe. (I do Duolingo from my mobile phone).

Oh, it's probably worth mentioning that this Lingvist course is still very much at the beta stage and so they welcome feedback about any problems/suggestions etc. You might want to tell them about this issue! They always responded to my complaints when I was working my way through their French course.

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MissCamden

Yeah! I had been waiting for this course to rekindle my interest in Russian. Always interesting to tackle a language from a different angle. Nice to see grammar tips in the app, I sorely needed them.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

There could be more tips/explanations... and some of the features aren't working yet - I'm sure you've noticed ;-) But, it's a great way to get some more practice in, that's for sure!

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caversham

I find it very useful to improve my spelling which leaves a lot to be desired.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

The spelling is horrible... I studied Russian for the first time 30 years ago and, for some reason, I remember it being much more phonetic!

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arnauti

Russian spelling is very logical. If you learn a few rules, you'll know how to spell everything. Stress never stops being hard though.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

I thought it worked the other way round for learners: when you know the rules you know how to pronounce everything. :) Spelling words judging merely by their pronunciation is, in general, impossible.

Russian has voicing assimilation and vowel reduction. There are also geminated consonants which, however, are not always pronounced longer—and some consonant clusters get simplified in pronunciation. All of above means that sometimes a word could theoretically have be spelt differently—and still sound the same, so its exact spelling must be governed by something else that pronunciation. For example, флешка, флэшка, флежка, флэжка, флешко, флэшко, флежко, флэжко would all sound identical provided that the stress is on the first syllable.

We have a number of odd spellings, though. Etymologically speaking, где should really be кде (hence куда and откуда). And the word лестница (stairs, ladder) comes from лезть (to climb), so it should have become лезтница, really.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

I've just read through Shady_arc's (Igor's?) reply to this and now feel in need of a stiff brandy, no rocks.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arnauti

Yeah, I meant the other way around. But spelling isn't that hard either. You can't know for sure whether it's an a or an o when unstressed for instance, but usually it makes a lot of sense. As opposed to English spelling which is total chaos, or say Swedish where a ш sound can be spelled in >40 different ways (but don't tell our students that). ;)

November 14, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gisberth

I learnd a lot of Russian by listening to a German podcast series. When reading I mostly can guess the stress and read it the rigth way, but to write just from the sound is barely impossible, it only works if you know the roots of the words from several differently stressed examples. To learn the spelling is now a big challenge for me.

December 5, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shady_arc

I think when you truly start listening to what Russian sounds like, you see that the writing conventions involves some tricks to stabilise the spelling. Am I correct in the assumption that Russian audio is now ways easier to get a hold of than 30 years ago? :)

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Ha! Somewhat ;-) Gosh, all we had was a flimsy textbook and our (Hungarian) teacher. Real Russians were impossible to get to at the time, being locked away behind the iron curtain. I know the situation isn't exactly great right now, but at least we can talk to each other with relative ease.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caversham

Doesn't work for me at all. The first word to appear was здесь and when I typed in the translation "here" nothing happened.

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

OK, you are meant to put "я" in the blank space to produce "I am here". That's how this game works ;-) You fill in the missing words. It stumped me, too, at first!

The screen gives you the full sentence on top, underneath is the sentence with the blank for you to fill in, and below that is the word (in English) which you are meant to translate

November 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caversham

Ah - thanks! I always knew I was stupid. :-))

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

It's been a rough week...

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lucianorate

No you're not! I had the same problem when first doing that exercise (yesterday night) and I don't think I'm stupid. Maybe just a little slow in the beginning, but I soon got the hang of it and now I'm really enjoying it. Long Live Lingvist!

November 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lucianorate

Thanks for the tip. Have a lingot. Or maybe two.

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Am always partial to a midnight snack... ta very much :)

November 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lucianorate

¡Que aproveche! ¡Buenas noches!

November 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimoneBa

Gracias :)

November 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caversham

Lingvist seemed like a good idea - alas, learning vocab without context simply doesn't work for me. Back to duolingo and pimsleur - and now RussianAccelerator as well.

November 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Did you keep on with it a bit? There are a few one-word exercises at the very beginning, but then there are full sentences. I agree, vocab without context in Russian is a bear.

August 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caversham

I did not keep up with Lingvist at all. Still concentrating on Duolingo, Russian Accelerator (for the excellent grammar) and, more recently, First Russian Reader Vol. 2 which provides written stories plus audio tracks with human rather than computer-generated voices. I still think Russian grammar is insane but fascinating.

August 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mixu-u

Oh thank you! This is a very good practice site for me!

December 18, 2016
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