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Irish vocabulary book recommendation ?

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Hi, I started learning Irish a week ago, and so far I have been enjoying it a lot ! (Before that, I didn't even know Duolingo existed.) But I think that to progress faster, I'd like to have a vocabulary book I could learn from when I'm not using the application. I would therefore like to ask whether you have a recommendation about a vocabulary book, that I could purchase from amazon for example ? I found :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Irish-Vocabulary-Thomas-P-Koziara/151142365X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1478968002=8-1=irish+vocabulary But there are no reviews about it, and 15'000 words seems huge for a beginner

Also there's this one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/2000-French-Irish-Vocabulary/dp/1537657046/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8=1478968306=8-17=irish+vocabulary

My native language is French (I'm from Switzerland), but it would be completely fine for me to have an English-Irish book

If you own one of these, or know any other good book, I would greatly appreciate your advice. Thanks !

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/SarahIrlande

I learn Irish and I french too :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/patbo
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I don't know these books, but as you're going to learn Irish through English on Duolingo, it might be a good idea to complement it with some French-Irish resource, because when you encounter the same Irish word sometimes with an English and sometimes with a French translation, that could help you not to associate the word just with an English translation, but with the actual concept.

I don't know the level of your German (but I think everyone learns it at school in Switzerland, right?), but combining Duolingo in English, a book in French and for grammar GnaG (Gramadach na Gaeilge) in the original German version would sound like a great combination.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MariaGoret375997

Have you tried the www.potafocal.com website? I find it very useful for vocabulary and seeing the use of the word in context.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Benpattpuq

Choose either Less Stress, More Success or Gaeilge gan streo

1 year ago

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These don't seem to be really what I am looking for, but your suggestions are much appreciated anyway :) In the reviews for one the Gaeilge Gan Stró volumes, someone wrote "As you work through the book, you really need to make your own vocabulary list for revision purposes.". I feel the same with the Duolingo course. But I could use such a book. It's expensive though

1 year ago

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One book I found when I was in Hodges Figgis while visiting Dublin was "The Oxford Children's Irish-English Visual Dictionary." ISBN 978-0192735614. It's not expensive, and it has lots of vocabulary listed by theme. It's available in various online stores. There's not much grammatical information, but the gender of every noun is given, and the pictures are a nice help for learning. Some of the vocabulary is (frankly) bizarre, but all the basics are there. Perhaps this is what you might be looking for?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cdub4language
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This is not so much for vocabulary, but since you are French-speaking I highly recommend checking out Assimil's pocket French guide. I used it frequently when I was first learning, it's already quite beat up from how much I've carried it around :-) It has a good deal of language info but also a lot of sections on Irish culture, history, etc. An enjoyable read!

http://fr.assimil.com/methodes/irlandais-de-poche

The grammar section is terribly organized in my opinion (difficult concepts like cases presented early yet easy and essential items like pronouns in later parts), but if you use it as a reference and go directly to sections as needed rather than trying to read from front to back, it's still quite helpful. Of course you can just skip to the conversation sections!

I personally am learning Irish vocabulary by reading children's books. This way you see the words in context. I liked this one, which is a collection of short stories:

https://www.amazon.com/Fear-bP%C3%A9ist%C3%ADn%C3%AD-Irish-Gabriel-Rosenstock-ebook/dp/B00M2U106Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482244776&sr=8-1&keywords=fear+na+bpeistini

You can buy it from booksellers located in Ireland too, but the advantage of the Kindle version is that you can also buy this dictionary:

https://www.amazon.com/Collins-Irish-English-One-Dictionary-ebook/dp/B00MLR11FS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482244841&sr=8-3&keywords=collins+irish+dictionary

When you click on a word, it pops up automatically with the English translation/definition (usually).

All the best with your Irish learning!

1 year ago

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Thanks to both of you, very interesting suggestions :) Yes, I had German for a lot of years at school. My level is not what it used to be because I don't have the opportunity to practise it now, but it should be enough to understand that website about Irish grammar. Pota Focal is great for the examples too.

I don't think I will buy any of the books I mentioned before, because they simply seem to contain long lists of words, not what I'm looking for. (It seems that the Gilad Soffer book may only be previewed on the US Amazon website, and the only person who reviewed it there didn't find it useful.)

What I'd like is something similar to some old vocabulary books I own for German and English : — the words are grouped by theme (e. g. Human body and health, Food, Politics, etc.) — the plurals are given when irregular — optionally, pronunciation hints for some words — some words may have a sentence example, or there are a few sentences at the end of a section — if possible with an index at the end of the book

I could also create my own database and fill it over time, but I don't have the time currently

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/davidcwalls
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There is a very good set of Irish-English vocabulary on Memrise that is organized according to the lessons in Duolingo. I have found it to be extremely helpful to go through the Memrise module first to get a start on the vocabulary, then I do the Duolingo lesson to see how the words are used. Here is a link: http://www.memrise.com/course/375351/duolingo-irish/

1 year ago

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Thanks a lot, I didn't know Memrise either. It's fun !

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Alice54_Maree3.

Yes I find that course very helpful as well David.I practice every day and it really has helped me to remember a lot of words that I previously was having trouble with

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Knocksedan

While it is organized as a straightforward dictionary, alphabetically rather than by category, the New English Irish dictionary, available as a website and as an app, is an excellent source of examples of words being used in different contexts.

1 year ago

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I have Gilad Soffer's Spanish-Irish dictionary and I wouldn't recommend it. It's really small, maybe 50 pages, and it just lists a single corresponding word for each entry without any details about parts of speech, conjugation, etc.

1 year ago

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Thank you for confirming my earlier impression. I had the idea that if I keep studying Irish, I might end up creating an open-source thematic vocabulary book if no such book already exists (which greatly surprises me). But that's for future times, currently I have all my courses and projects at school and I unfortunately don't have much time to devote to Irish. I have at least been able to practice a little every day, and have a look at explanations on other websites. Maybe next summer ? :)

1 year ago