"un copil, doi copii"

Translation:a child, two children

November 16, 2016

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When do you use "doi" and when do you use "două?"


doi is used for masculine plural words, două is feminine plural words or neutral plural words :-)


Just like Portuguese. Dois for male plural, duas for female plural. Not like us Spanish speakers who only have "dos" for both plural genders.


Două is the feminine form of doi, e.g. "două mere", "two apples"


Neuter words take the feminine form in the plural and the masculine in the singular


Can you explain this? Neuter nouns in the plural form takes the feminine plural or singular form? And neuter nouns in the singular takes the masculine singular or plural?


In a lengthier and more linguistic explanation, I assume that very early on, masculine, feminine, and neuter had very different forms, like in Latin. However, over centuries of use, the sounds and spellings of Romanian changed in such a way that the neuter words most resembled masculine in their singular forms, but feminine in their plural forms. Which is how they are often described today.


Yes, neuter singular takes the form of masculine singular, and the same neuter at plural takes the feminine plural


You’ll find it’s the same in Italian.


The singulare of any neuter noun IS and behave like a masculine. The plural of any neuter noun is feminine and inflected as such.

Example: one juice = un suc (masculine)

the juice = sucul (masculine)

two juices = două sucuri (feminine) (not „doi” as it would be for masculine plural)

the juices = sucurile


Doi is for male. Două is for female.


Why does "copii" sound like "copin"?


Probably a not so good speech software.


So the correct way to pronounce it is just 'copi' with a long i?


I think it is more like "copee", but I could be wrong. :)


Copii should be pronounce /koˈpij/. Whether that's what you mean by "copee" I'm not sure. It's like how "copee" would be pronounced in English but with a little push at the end, which is what CristianoPoa is hearing.



I don't know. I didn't pick up on that. Listening to it again, it sounds like copeen now lol!


Do all the numbers change by gender like this?


No. Only one, two, twelve, and all numbers ending in them:

Two forms for one:
I have one pig. - Am un porc.
How many pigs do you have? One. - Câți porci ai? Unu.

I have one cow. - Am o vacă.
How many cows do you have? One. - Câte vaci ai? Una.

I have two pigs. - Am doi porci.
I have two cows. - Am două vaci.

I have twelve pigs. - Am doisprezece porci.
I have twelve cows. - Am douăsprezece vaci.

Numbers ending in one/two/twelve:
I have twenty one pigs. - Am douăzeci și unu* de** porci.
I have twenty one cows. - Am douăzeci și una de vaci.

I have twenty two pigs. - Am douăzeci și doi de porci.
I have twenty two cows. - Am douăzeci și două de vaci.

I have a hundred and twelve pigs. - Am o sută doisprezece porci.
I have a hundred and twelve cows. - Am o sută douăsprezece vaci.

* note that the două in "douăzeci" agrees in gender with the word "zeci" (tens).
** you can ignore the "de" particle for now :)


Excellent explanation. Mersi!


Isn’t there a special mix for neuter nouns?


What do you mean by mix?

A neuter noun is a noun that have a masculine form and behaviour in its singular form and a feminine form and behaviour when in plural form.


This is confusing. Duolingo doesn't explain it well enough.


I'm right there with you. Numbers and gender can be hard to grasp.

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