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https://www.duolingo.com/kerrywth

Timed practice = speed typing test

Try typing this in your NATIVE language in ten seconds: "He who has no teeth has no bread, and he who has bread has no teeth." Anybody?

I simply can't type fast enough to answer the timed practice! If I mistype just one letter it's over. Let alone selecting special characters.

This means the timed test is not a language test; it's just a test of how fast I can type. It's measuring the wrong thing.

Grrrr!!!

4 years ago

31 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/RobinRockt

I like the feature, it's fun! Of course it's about typing fast and sometimes it can be frustrating with long sentences or if you make a typo. But well... That's Flappy Bird too and people get addicted to it.

If you consciously replace special characters by their non-accented version, all you get is the "Pay attention to the accents" message but you won't lose a life. Seems fair... ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wazzie
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I think its a bad idea to get out of the habit of using accents, even if it lets you/is easier

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RobinRockt

Of course; but if you do it consciously it is ok for me. Have you ever seen your native language decay when people write fast, e. g. in chats? No punctuation, no upper and lower case anymore, letters are missed or swapped. Nobody cares as long as it seems to be due to fast typing and you can read it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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Learning to use the international keyboard fast is one of the most useful things duolingo has done for me.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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Don't you like the adrenaline rush when you get a looong sentence right with half a second left? :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/A51f
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Yes! Or you take a guess at a question and get it right!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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Exactly. I think, "Oh my gosh, I just had a thought completely in French!" Since the subsequent thought was in English, it's clear the effect is temporary; but still ....

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hohenems
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Enter 1 character, hit enter, get it wrong, next sentence comes up.

Ford Motors NYSE symbol + the person who has to catch everyone else in a game of tag.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77
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I used to do that too. But. If you do that, the system will record it as a wrong answer, one you have to practice more, thus that skill will decay faster. That's the problem.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ceaer
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It might be in testing (so you might not have this feature yet) but recently a number of people commented on the time you get for correct sentences increasingly drastically. You used to get 7-10 seconds, now you can get as much as 20. That makes it much less about typing speed. (Of course, if you get a super-long sentence at first, when you haven't built up a time buffer, it's still a race to get the translation in - although you can just skip to the next question if you don't think you have time to answer your current one).

If special characters are slowing you down, try installing the U.S. international keyboard. Then everything can be typed, you don't have to click on the special characters button.

And if timed practice is still too frustrating, you can always use the untimed version.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LenirD
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The international keyboard still requires two key clicks instead of one to produce an accented letter.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ceaer
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Yes, but one extra keystroke is still a lot faster than having to take your hand off the keyboard, move the mouse, click, go back to the keyboard, and keep typing.

Once you get used to the international keyboard, adding the accents really doesn't affect typing speed at all.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LenirD
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My native language has lots of diacritical marks, so I learned typing using the international keyboard. I can go back and forth between QWERTY and international with no problems. And yes, the international keyboard is faster than fishing for letters on the Duo bar, but the extra time required to type the extra strokes should still be taken in consideration by Duo, unless Duo is OK with just keep reminding us about "typos" for missing accents (or other mistakes,) knowing that we must go so fast that we won't even read the correction(s) because the impetus is to finish the lesson with time to spare. Also, I agree with the user who says that using the diacritical marks consistently should be just as important as beating the clock.

Conclusion: beating the clock should not justify omitting diacritical marks; getting answers wrong because of typos that I know are there but have to ignore; not reading the corrections when I get something wrong; not reporting problems, or participating in the sentence discussions. Typing faster should not be regarded as better when these deficiencies accumulate.

My suggestions: It would be very useful to have a stop-the-clock option that could be activated only for "report a problem" and "discuss sentence." In addition, it would be great if Duo gave us a little bit more time. I'm talking about seconds not minutes. Super-fast typists could finish the exercise with more time to spare, and others would finish with less frustration.

Please, think about it, Duo.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ghasrfakhri

Come on, If is some time it is fun to use it even I lose just after 2 or 3 questions, and it is very useful to keep you days Streak (thanks to Samy1979) when you don't have enough time to complete a regulate test/lesson.

Anyway I like it ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samy1979
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Strike? You mean Streak? Yes that's a good way. Or just some translation on "immersion". Or I just repeat a old lesson in normal mode.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoshuaBowers

One of the ancillary benefits I've noticed from the Duolingo timed practice is just how much it has improved my typing speed. I imagine before I started I was around 45ish words per minute, and after recently testing, I'm up to 70! They have upped the time you receive now, so it's not as tough. The new challenge for me is trying to end up with at least two minutes at the end.

Good luck!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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What I've learned is that coffee makes my fingers stupid.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thurid
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I think there should be more time for long sentences. I liked it a lot, when I started duolingo, but now the sentences get longer. And with accents and "special" characters, it is impossible for me to do. I think a good way to solve this one would be to give a second for each word after finishing a sentence, instead of always giving 7 seconds. With the 30 seconds head start you get, I think it would make the timed pracitce fairer and more fun. I would also like it, if it would stop the countdown while checking your pronounciation. After recording, I usually loose around 3 to 5 seconds in which the site is loading/checking.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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Since the Duolingo interface is so flexible and individually adapted, I would love to see the bonus time reduced, the more progress you make. If you beat the clock, the bonus would go down incrementally, from 15 seconds to 7 seconds, and back up to 15 if you start to lose skill.

Anyway, thinking faster and faster in the new language is exactly what we all want. But I agree that it needs to be as possible for us to do as for the 3 year old genius, or there's no point in doing it (since I'm no genius and you're not three years old).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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Thanks for the topic ++

If the speed test is stressful for you, I've found a way to reduce the stress and also gain the benefit of racing the clock.

I open four tabs to https://www.duolingo.com/practice. I start practice in the first tab. When the clock reaches 5 seconds I know I probably won't finish the next sentence, so I switch to the next tab and start a new practice, and repeat through all four tabs. Your clock in the first tab will run out, and you'll get credit for the sentences you got right.

Much less stress, but I'm still chasing the goal of completing all the answers AND beating the clock. More smiles, because I no longer see all that typing wasted when the clock runs out on your sentence at "has no tee...".

Refreshing the window resets to the start of the practice. And, make sure you don't refresh before the points are tallied, or you'll lose the credit.

By the way, the same thing works for individual skills. for example:

https://www.duolingo.com/skill/de/Idioms-and-Proverbs/practice

This is really great for keeping your tree sparkling gold.

Note, for particular lessons there is no timed practice. And, it's no help on a tablet.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/irenicPie

I like timed practice, but I get SO frustrated when I know an answer, but don't manage to finish typing it within the time limit. Also, in timed practice I have a habit of skipping long sentences and not typing accents.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

I have never used the timed version. I'd rather learn the Spanish than get frustrated in what I see as a meaningless typing test.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Markmcopc
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The most significant language learning hurdle for me is how anxiety slows down thinking and causes mistakes. Nothing else that duolingo does has helped me more in that regard, than timed practice.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OlderThanRome
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This means the timed test is not a language test; it's just a test of how fast I can type. It's measuring the wrong thing.

I agree. I type quickly so I regularly do timed practice and always beat the clock with lots of time left even though I get many sentences wrong. When I try normal practice, I usually fail, mostly because I don't type perfectly and forget individual letters. So I have to consciously force myself to proofread, and only then can I do normal practice.

But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Reproducing everything correctly and reproducing it quickly are both skills worth honing. When I'm speaking, I much rather just say something wrong and still be understood than fumble for the correct word for half a minute, interrupting the flow of the conversation.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/A51f
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I know! I have to constantly backspace because I messed up then it is too late. I do like the timed practice though.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NickC172

I completely agree. There are lots of things in the timed practice that are completely and utterly wrong. For example, if I want to discuss a sentence with other Duo users or talk to somebody in real life, which is more important than Duolingo, I should be able to pause the timed practice. Although this could bring up worries about using the timed practice to cheat by just pausing to look at a sentence and figure it out, that could easily be remedied by adding a pop-up that covers the problem and says "timed practice is paused," for example. The timed practice feature needs some serious work.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/awesomez2003

lol

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EsperanzaM38

You are rght. It's very difficult to type in my iPad.I get nervous and make lots of mistakes.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/syrosj
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Kerrywth, I know it can be frustrating if you are a two-finger typist. I would totally recommend spending some time doing blind-typing. You can try this free site: https://www.typingclub.com

It may seem like a waste of time but if you hang in there for a few weeks you will be surprised at how fast you can type and best of all, without looking at your keyboard.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AiswaryaGS

i cant find this feature, please help!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LenirD
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I'm taking the course in languages that I already speak fluently (except for one) for fun and for revision purposes. One of these is my native language. The great disadvantage of the "timed practice" they way it is now designed it that there is no time allowed for comments. Often, the "correct answer" is limited or inaccurate, and if I take time to make a suggestion I have to restart the exercise, so I just keep going. Everybody loses. I agree with everyone who is taking Duo to learn a language and not necessary to earn a gold medal in speed-typing: the speed is way too fast! No allowance for longer sentences or accents adds to the frustration, and there goes the fun!

Quoting Kerrywith: "This means the timed test is not a language test; it's just a test of how fast I can type. It's measuring the wrong thing. Grrrr!!!!"

1 year ago