https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from November 13th to November 20th

Romanian is now in beta!
The Romanian course is now available for the eager Duolingoers. Congrats to the course team, and to team Duolingo! This maybe the last course to start beta this month. The next wave is due next month, hopefully in time for the 2016 winter/summer holidays throughout the globe.

Swedish for Arabic is now out of beta!
The Swedish for Arabic course is now out of beta. Congratulations to the course team, to team Duolingo, and to all the learners who have helped the course reach this level of maturity by sending their suggestions and feedback.

Team Tamil switching to manual gear
You will notice an artificial drop in the progress for the English for Tamil course. This is because they have moved to manually updating their progress each week. The automated number did not do justice because the tree they are building is not yet complete and hence cannot provide the right denominator number for progress calculation.

PHASE 1 Progress: Total 22 courses

Romanian for English - 100% | 100% | 100% | Beta

Portuguese for French - 99% | 99% | 99% | 99% (+0) 31-Dec-2016

English for Thai - 99% | 99% | 99% | 99% (+0)

German for Italian - 99% | 99% | 99% | 99% (+0) 1-Dec-2016

Italian for Portuguese - 72% | 72% | 73% | 75% (+2) 25-Dec-2016 *

Czech for English - 69% | 71% | 72% | 73% (+1) 7-Jul-2017 ^

Swahili for English - 70% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0) 1-Dec-2016 ^

Spanish for Italian - 70% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0)

Swedish for Russian - 69% | 69% | 69% | 69% (+0)

French for Chinese - 49% | 49% | 49% | 49% (+0)

Russian for Turkish - 47% | 47% | 47% | 47% (+0) 31-Dec-2016

French for Turkish - 45% | 45% | 45% | 45% (+0)

Korean for English - 32% | 34% | 35% | 36% (+1) 31-Dec-9999

Klingon for English - 33% | 33% | 33% | 33% (+0) 31-Dec-2016

Hindi for English - 28% | 28% | 28% | 28% (+0) 26-Jan-2017 ^

Indonesian for English - 28% | 28% | 28% | 27% (-1)

English for Tagalog - 21% | 23% | 25% | 26% (+1) 24-Dec-2016

English for Bengali - 23% | 23% | 23% | 23% (+0) 20-Feb-2017

English for Tamil - 20% | 20% | 22% | 14% (-8) 28-Feb-2017 ^

Spanish for Arabic - 8% | 8% | 9% | 10% (+1) 31-Dec-2017 ^

Yiddish for English - 9% | 9% | 9% | 9% (+0) 7-Jul-2018

English for Telugu - 6% | 6% | 6% | 6% (+0)

High Valyrian for English - (New) 0% | 1% | 2% (+1) 1-Jun-2017

Legend:
Course - 3 weeks ago | 2 weeks ago | a week ago | Now (Progress delta); Estimated Launch Date (provided by contributors) (Date delta)

'Estimated Launch Date' only when provided by the course contributors

Mean - 0.64% | 0.26% | 0.35% | 0.29% (-0.06)
Median - 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% (+0)
This week's mean is not including the artificial 8 point reduction for the English for Tamil course

* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hindi, Czech, Swahili, Spanish (for Arabic), & Tamil teams' progress is as per their own calculation

Progress Visualized:

Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
(For Phase-1 and Phase-2 courses by default, and for Phase-3 courses per request).

SebastianMolin from Team Romanian wrote 4 days ago:

WE ARE IN BETA!

Bună!

We just entered the beta phase a few minutes ago. Over the next few days we will disable sentences with bad TTS. We will also start taking care of reports right away. Felicitări! :-)

Eradus from Team Korean wrote 3 days ago:

11/16/2016

> Going full speed!

847/2373 Words

97/100 Word Images

IrisFarina from Team Bengali wrote yesterday:

After a L-O-N-G While

Hello from the English for Bengali Speakers Team,

Currently we are down to two contributors, which many of you have already noticed. We are not that far off schedule, but getting things done earlier is a plus!

For now, to be a contributor there are some rules which you have to follow-

1.This is NOT a sprint, this is a MARATHON.

It takes a tremendous amount of time (both physically and mentally) to work as a contributor for any given course. English for Bengali speakers is not an exception. YOU have to give at least two hours per week, either spread over seven days or in one day, however you like, whenever you prefer. But we need this time from you.

2.What's your streak?

You are on Duolingo and you are here to learn a language in the most fun way possible. We are looking for people with at least TEN days streak in ANY language. Why you ask? That's to make sure you are not applying to contribute to this course only because it is not offered. Your love of learning and spreading what you know cannot be quantified. What we need is a quality benchmark of perseverance. The TEN day streak as of now is MANDATORY before you are considered as a contributor.

3.Simple things need the most care

Yes, we are starting with sentences/ words like "An egg", "Seven" right up to "Where is the bank?" "How is your father?" and much more. Looks simple, sounds simple but needs extreme care.

4.Scores not necessary, your presence IS.

We are not looking for certificate scores, we don't need your past contribution. What we want is people who will work with dedication and not unfurl within a month without a translating a single sentence. Nobody has any use for contributors like that.

5.Take care in your contribution application.

Anyone fitting the above four is the person we are looking for. But the last step separating us from our newest contributor is the application. Your standard of written English must be on level with the written Bengali and vice-versa. Take some time before sending your application. Bottom line is - read it thrice, send it once.

Sounds difficult? We have one good news though, we are sifting through applications made so far. We want to take in two new contributors by December 21st, 2016. See you soon at the incubator!

বাংলাভাষীদের জন্য ইংলিশ- টিম থেকে শুভেচ্ছা সবাইকে। আমরা এই মুহূর্তে দুই জন কনট্রিবিউটর কাজ করছি, এটি অনেকেরই নজরে পড়েছে আশা করি। আমরা শিডিউল থেকে বেশী দূরে নেই, কিন্তু কাজ তাড়াতাড়ি হয়ে গেলে সবার জন্য ভাল!

এখন থেকে এই কোর্সে কনট্রিবিউটর হিসাবে আসতে চাইলে কিছু নিয়ম মানতে হবে-

১. এটি কোন স্প্রিন্ট রেস না, এটি ম্যারাথন

যেকোন কোর্সে কনট্রিবিউটর হিসাবে কাজ করতে হলে প্রচুর সময় দিতে হয় (শারীরিক ও মানসিক উভয়)। বাংলাভাষীদের জন্য ইংলিশ কোর্সেও এর কোন তারতম্য নেই। সপ্তাহে কমপক্ষে দুই ঘণ্টা সময় দিতে হবে এখানে, এটি সপ্তাহে সাত দিনেও হতে পারে, একদিনেও হতে পারে; যেভাবে ইচ্ছা, যখন সম্ভব। কিন্তু এই সময়টা দিতে হবেই হবে।

২. কয়দিনের "Streak"?

আপনি ডুওলিংগোতে আছেন আর আপনি এখানে এসেছেনই সবচেয়ে আনন্দের সাথে একটি ভাষা শিখতে। আমরা আমাদের কনট্রিবিউটরদের যেকোন ভাষায় কমপক্ষে দশ দিন "streak" দেখতে চাই। কেন? আমরা নিশ্চিত হতে চাই যে শুধুমাত্র কোর্সটি নেই বলে আপনি অ্যাপ্লাই করছেন না। আপনার ভাষা শিখার আগ্রহ এবং যা জানেন তা মানুষের মাঝে ছড়িয়ে দেবার যে ইচ্ছা তা মাপবার কোন সংখ্যাগত উপায় নেই। কিন্তু আমাদের একটি গুণগত মাপকাঠি দরকার। এখন থেকে সব কনট্রিবিউটরদেরকে অ্যাপ্লাই করার আগে কমপক্ষে দশ দিন "streak" থাকতে হবে।

৩. সোজা জিনিসে সবচেয়ে বেশী যত্ন দিতে হয়

হ্যাঁ, আমরা শুরু করছি "একটি ডিম", "সাত" এই জাতীয় বাক্য/ শব্দ দিয়ে এবং আমরা এগিয়ে যাব "ব্যাংক কোথায়?" "তোমার বাবা কেমন আছেন?" আর তারও সামনে। সোজা দেখাচ্ছে, সোজা শোনাচ্ছে কিন্তু প্রচুর যত্ন নিতে হবে।

৪. স্কোর নয়, উপস্থিতি প্রয়োজন

আমরা কোন সার্টিফিকেট স্কোর খুঁজছি না, তোমার কোন পুরানো কনট্রিবিউশন আমাদের লাগবে না। আমরা এমন কাউকে চাই যে কিনা আগ্রহের সাথে কাজ করবে। এক মাসে একটাও বাক্য আনুবাদ না করে এক সময় চলে যাবে এমন কাউকে আমাদের কেন, কারোরই লাগবে না।

৫. কনট্রিবিউশন অ্যাপ্লিকেশানে মনযোগ দিতে হবে

উপরের চারটি রুলে যে ফিট করবে তাকেই আমরা অবশ্যই চাই। কিন্তু আমাদের সবচেয়ে নতুন কনট্রিবিউটরকে নেবার আগে মধ্যে রয়েছে কনট্রিবিউশন অ্যাপ্লিকেশান। লিখিত ইংলিশ ও লিখিত বাংলার স্ট্যান্ডার্ড সমান হতে হবে। অ্যাপ্লিকেশানটি করার আগে কিছু সময় নিতে হবেই। এ ব্যাপারে শেষ কথা- তিন বার পড়, পাঠাও এক বার।

কঠিন শোনাচ্ছে? একটি ভাল খবর আছে, আমরা এই পর্যন্ত করা অ্যাপ্লিকেশান বাছাই করছি। ডিসেম্বর ২১, ২০১৬ এর মধ্যে আমরা দুইজন নতুন কনট্রিবিউটর নিতে চাই। ইনকিউবেটরে অতি শীঘ্রই দেখা হবে!

Dedalvs from Team High Valyrian wrote yesterday:

Word Count

It was pointed out to me that our word count estimate is based on the word count of the course we used as a base (Russian). The Russian course has WAY more words than we're going to end up having in High Valyrian (more than twice as many, in fact), so, as a result, the projections will be off. Though we don't have a specific word count, you can assume, when looking at the above chart, that we're going to be working with approximately 2,000 words. Please keep that in mind when looking at the projections. Thus, with 109/2000, we're actually 5.5% of the way to our total!

Dedalvs, please let me know if you would like to manually provide your progress numbers each week. Team Tamil has started to do so beginning this week. I am still showing 2% based on 2.96% progress for your course that I saw earlier when I created this post.

nueby from Team Czech wrote 5 hours ago:

Week 72

1450 words, 73%.

ModyDj from Team ES for AR wrote 8 minutes ago:

10% Done!

Estimados alumnos en Duolingo, nos complace informarles que llegamos a este porcentaje después de haber puesto en pie un método que fue adoptado por nuestro equipo. Este método nos permite trabajar de forma muy organizada en la construcción de este curso. Nuestro objetivo es producir el curso lo mejor posible y un contenido útil a través de ejemplos completos que enriquecerán y aumentarán su nivel. Esperamos que este curso contribuirá a una educación de calidad gratuita a la altura de sus expectativas.

أعزائنا الطلبة والمتعلمين عبر موقعنا موقع دوولينجو ، يسرنا إبلاغكم بأننا قد وصلنا إلى هذه النسبة بعد وضع خطة نهائية ومحكمة اعتمدها الفريق والتي بموجبها سينطلق عملنا ضمن منظومةٍ متينة تتيح للمتعلمينا الإستفادة القصوى من هذا المنهج لكون اللغة الإسبانية لها مكانتها الخاصة عالمياً ومن المتوقع نجاحها على المدى البعيد ، لذلك نحن حريصون كل الحرص على إنتاج منهجٍ يرتقي لمستوى تطلعاتكم ومحتوى هادفٍ يروي عطشكم من خلال وضعنا لأمثلةٍ شاملة تعود عليكم بالنفع مستقبلاً ، وتمكنكم من الحصول على تعليمٍ بجودة أعلى تفوق توقعاتكم

TL;DR

Romanian is now in beta, and Swedish for Arabic is now out of beta!

Previous Update 6-Nov to 13-Nov

Last updates from:
2016: Oct, Sep, Aug, Jul, Jun, May, Apr, Mar, Feb, Jan
2015: Dec, Nov, Oct, Sep, Aug, Jul, Jun, May, Apr, Mar, Feb, Jan
2014: Dec, Nov, Oct, Sep, Aug, Jul, Jun, May, Apr, Mar, Feb, Jan, 1st.

November 20, 2016

46 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Legends:

  • black non-italic => team's own computation/estimation
  • gray italic => Duo's (flawed) automatic computation/estimation

Sorted by estimated %age of completion


Note: the English from Tamil pourcentage is now on their own estimation and not anymore an automatic (flawed) pourcentage.
Therefore, I didn't put anything on the "progression" for this team since it'd make no sense.

Sorted by estimated launch date

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/John00625

Your first screenshot was removed?

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Which one?
I see both above.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/John00625

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Strange...
I'll investigate. Thx for the report!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/John00625

I see it now!! Thank you!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/fr224

*percentage

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DaConquistador

Please work on finishing Hindi! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the work you've done, but it's been stuck at 59% for a while. And with the constant re-changing of release dates it makes me ponder whether it will ever come out or not. Please get it out as soon as you can. Thank you!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

Yes!!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

May I request another update?

November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

Yes!

November 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/bguiz

Yes please, I'm been waiting for a while too!

November 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Seeking_Truth

Haan, krpaya! Mujhe Hindi Seekhna chaahie! Ham Hindi Seekhna pasand hain!

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Pratyush.

Haan, Bilkul. Mujhe Hindi seekhna hai! Hame Hindi Seekhna pasand hain! ..d(^_^)b..

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/CharmingTiger

Congrats to the Romanian team, and good luck to everyone working on Romanian!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

Definitely my favourite course this year!!!

November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/efisgpr

Thanks! What a cool language!

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/tydalamb

Thank you guys for taking the time and effort to inform the Duo community with the incubating courses.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

(This is just jitengore being fabulous on his own, and jrikhal lending a hand. Volunteers, that is.)

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

(blushes)

Good the camera was covered per advice from Zuckerberg and Comey!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

I didn't mean to embarrass you. :-) And I should probably also have mentioned that this weekly update was originally made by a mere user, right? (Ie. not a course contributor.)

It just seemed that someone might be under the impression that this is a roundup provided by staff.

(My camera has also been covered since that Zuckerberg snap! :-p)

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ConradTiedeman

Congratulations to the Romanian team!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Pratyush.

979 days in incubator. At last it's there.

November 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Itwas

Just 9 days left for the estimated launch date for Swahili, hopefully this is true, although it seems a little unrealistic. We want to hear from you Team Swhaili. Keep the great work up! GO SWAHILI!

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/John00625

They've posted an update today! go check it out!!

https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/sw/en/status

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/VincentOostelbos

Even when it was first announced at that date, I was expecting some delays—that's just how things go—but I hope the recent lack of communication does not mean the delay will be worse than anticipated. I remain in patient yet excited anticipation.

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6

Thank you jitengore

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DerGoldmann

I believe the High Valyrian team also has an update. They also stated that their actual progress is at 5.5%.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

It is added. Although I am showing 2% using the automatic calculation until I hear from them.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

@jitengore

I am still showing 2% based on 2.96%

Isn't 2.96% more 3% than 2%? ;)

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

Historically WIU used to round off. We moved to rounding down because (1) this matches the Duolingo's calculation and (2) when you are 2.51%, you have not not crossed the 3% line.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

Ok. Thx for the answer.


(2) but when you're at 100%, you neither crossed it, you just "reached" it. ;)

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6

English for Tagalog is 26.07416127133608%. I don't think it will be ready by Dec 24 but that's ok.... Bahala na (whatever will be, will be) :-)

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnReid8

I see that High Valyrian is making good progress.

Fact is, I wouldn't be surprised if High Valyrian made it into beta before Klingon.

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ModyDj
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Thanks jitengore :)

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

You're welcome, ModyDj!

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnReid8

Team Swahili says that they've hit 100% and are just waiting to do the audio recordings and polishing the lessons up saying haste makes waste, (or rather something about waiting for fruit to ripen).

Good job!

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverCharacter

Was Tamil supposed to be minus 8? Is it possible for a course's progress to diminish?

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/rowschank

We're self-reporting our completion starting this week, as jrikhal and jitengore have mentioned.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

See the note in my above post.

Was Tamil supposed to be minus 8?

For the courses using the automatic (and flawed) estimation, yes it is possible and common that the percentage diminish.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore

The Tamil team has shifted to manual update of their course progress. The new number should be more realistic.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/SilverCharacter

Ah, thanks. I didn't realize that. Thanks also to Jrikhal, I should have noticed it. More thanks to rohanshankar! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

November 20, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ryannichols7

now that swedish for arabic is out, any chance we begin to see development on arabic for english? fingers are crossed...

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

They are two independent things: having many courses from Arabic doesn't make easier to create a course teaching Arabic, unfortunately.
The development of courses teaching Arabic needs that Duo tackles issues (that aren't impacting the courses teaching from Arabic) first.

Arabic for English could come soon (or not) — fingers are crossed, indeed — but it's independent from other courses with Arabic going/being out.

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/ryannichols7

I wasn't sure how it worked, whether it was say, the swedish team working on swedish for arabic, or rather the arabic team working on it. I know swedish for arabic was pretty important to get out, and I'll happily wait for an arabic course (romanian proved that good things come to those who wait, as it's an outstanding course), but wasn't sure if due to the progress for these, we'd see something sooner. I know a big holdup with arabic was teaching a right to left language, but now that we have hebrew and such, the pieces seem to be in place. hopefully soon!

November 23, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal

say, the swedish team working on swedish for arabic, or rather the arabic team working on it.

None of those because there is no "language" team (no "Swedish team", no "Arabic team", no "English team", no "French team") but one team per course (= per pair of langauges = per "learning language XX from language YY").
So:

  • one team "Swedish from English"
  • one team "English from Arabic"
  • one team "French from Arabic"
  • one team "French from Italian"
  • etc.

Being one team per course, it's very often the case that one course and its reverse one share many contributors, when not all.
The day Duo staff will be able and decide to add it into the incubator, staff will ask contributors to the course SV<-AR if they want to contribute to the new reverse course AR<-SV. Thus the the "Arabic from Swedish" team will probably be same (at least partially) as the "Swedish from Arabic" team.

know a big holdup with arabic was teaching a right to left language

I don't remember to have ever heard (from staff) that it has ever be a big issue for Duo's system.
There was some little issues with the fact to change sense of writing, but they have been tackled long ago afaik and weren't as big to tackle as the one(s) they encounter apparently (-> it's for months they don't tackle them) in order to make possible to teach Arabic within the existing system.

November 24, 2016
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