https://www.duolingo.com/Onagraceae

Plural tenses of Ten and Tamten?

Cześć! I just started learning polish a few days ago and have been having fun! It's complicated, but I like it.

I'm a little confused on the plural tenses of ten and tamten, however. Duolingo does a good job at describing the nominative and accusative singular forms, but not so much the plurals, and I couldn't find any good links to discussions on it on the pinned thread.

I've pieced together that nominative plural tenses of 'ten' are ci (masc.) and te (fem. and neuter). For tamten, nom. pl. tenses are tamci (masc.) and tamte (fem.). I'm not sure about accusative or nominative neuter plural.

Dzięnkuje!

November 21, 2016

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https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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Neuter plural accusative is the same as feminine, actually not-masculine-personal, and equals to nominative

sing. nom. ten pan - ta pani - to dziecko - ten stół

sing. acc. tego pana - tę panią - to dziecko - ten stół (please notice 'ogonek' in fem.)

pl. nom. ci panowie - te panie - te dzieci - te stoły

pl. acc. tych panów - te panie - te dzieci - te stoły

November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Mandiras

Ci/tamci is only for the plural of personal masculine nouns (like chłopiec ' boy'). Use te/tamte for all other plural nouns, including non-animate masculine (like kot 'cat') and animate non-personal masculine ones (like sok 'juice'). I believe the accusative case is the same as the nominative in the plural. The only places where accusative is different from nominative (in the singular) are animate masculine nouns (which take the same conjugations as in the genitive) and nouns that end in -a.

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Onagraceae

Thank you! That is much simpler than I was expecting

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Mandiras

To sum up, there are, to my knowledge, three accusative conjugations that differ from the nominative, all singular (WRONG, see post below):

  • Animate masculine: dobrego kota

  • Feminine: dobrą kobietę

  • The oddball masculine nouns that end in -a and behave like feminine nouns: dobrego mężczyznę

November 21, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/immery

there is also plural masculine personal

  • dobrych mężczyzn.
November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/Mandiras

Gotta love Polish grammar! When you think you got it, there's always that detail that you missed :p

November 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/immery

here is the table

Accusative is n 4 biernik, genitive is no 2 - dopełniacz

"ci" - is only for masculine nouns that describe people , "te" is for all other nouns (niemęskoosobowy=not masculine personal-nm)

Also we use word "tense" to talk about verbs -in Polish that word translates to "czas"= which translates back as "time" - present, past, future.

November 22, 2016
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