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Yoda was from Hungary!

Motodraconis
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I started Hungarian today, and... I have to say this, but it REALLY helps me to imagine Yoda speaking.

good morning i wish you.

sick you are.

use the force you must.

The Jedi Master was from Hungary! Who knew?

(I sort of wish Duolingo would let me reply Yoda style, as it would help me fix the word order in my head. Instead, I am Yoda-ing to try and memorise words, then flipping back to type out.)

1 year ago

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Motodraconis
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Arf! Great site, thank you!

1 year ago

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Ooh daamn.. this makes perfect sense ! he even looks a bit Hungarian. How didn't I realize this before. But has someone made sure that Yoda is not Turkish ?

1 year ago

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trisec
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Trivia: because of the relatively free word order in Hungarian, Yoda just spoke normal Hungarian in the Hungarian translation of Star Wars. Compare:

Az erő legyen veled!

Az erő veled legyen!

Legyen veled az erő!

Legyen az erő veled!

Veled legyen az erő!

Veled az erő legyen!

All 6 are valid, grammatically correct translations of "May the Force be with you!", it's only the topic of the sentence that changes. (It is with you that the Force should be; It is the Force that should be with you, etc.)

1 year ago

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Motodraconis
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Thank you! But such a shame they could not have jumbled Yoda's delivery in Hungarian. Would such have been possible?

1 year ago

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trisec
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Well, if they had separated, for example, "az" and "erő" ("the" and "Force"). Not even Hungarian word order allows that. Then again, that might just have made the sentences entirely incomprehensible.

Changing the topic may also obscure the meaning - see the above-mentioned "Sokat kell még tanulnod" (You still have much to learn), where putting anything else before "kell" would emphasize that. So, for example, "Tanulnod kell még sokat" would mean "It is learning that you yet have to do a lot of".

There are, naturally, sentences where not every word order is grammatically correct, but I doubt every sentence Yoda says could have been changed to be like that.

1 year ago

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Be careful :-)

Usually the verb is at the end of the sentence. But it depends on the way, how you want to say something. Newer information usually stand at the beginning of the sentence, and the word before the conjugated verb is the focus of the sentence.

Thats why verbs with a prefix (el-, le-, ki-, be-, bele-, meg-, ide-, oda- etc.: elmegy, lemegy, kimegy, bemegy, odamegy etc.) usually do not stand at the end of the sentence because the modified character of the verb gives more importance to it. Though it is not wrong at all to put them at the end of a sentence as well, but it sounds a bit strange to put the most important thing at the end.

1 year ago

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Motodraconis
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This may be a bit advanced for me. I'm still at the Yoda stage! I'll take a note, but I may have to re-read this later when I've climbed the tree a bit further. Thank you!

1 year ago

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I'm so glad I was not the only one who thought this! I just started learning too. My mom (who grew up with Hungarian) can't see the Yoda-ness quite as much as I do.

1 year ago

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Motodraconis
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Every little bit helps! I learned French from my French mother, and was taught French and German at school. I wanted to see how I'd cope with a language entirely new to me, and my first attempt here had me sobbing. Finishing the Hungarian tree is going to take a long, long time. I'm on level 5 but I haven't even completed two skills!

1 year ago