Would like to see an advanced module for Italian prepositions
The thing that continually trips me us is the use of Italian prepositions. I overuse the preposition "di" for instance. I would love to see an advanced module concentrating how and when to use prepositions as they are so different from how we use them in English.
I completely agree. Conversationally, we can get by using the wrong ones. But to move toward fluency it would be very useful to go over da, a, di, etc.
Thank you for posting this! I struggle with prepositions greatly and in fact I think it's actually the hardest part about Italian.
Is it what are you looking for? :) http://www.italica.rai.it/principali/lingua/grammar/topics/preposizioni.htm
No not really. Grazie pero per il link. I understand LE PREPOSIZIONI SEMPLICI and LE PREPOSIZIONI ARTICOLATE. What I need practice with is knowing WHICH preposition to use and when. Often times Italian prepositions are used in a way that is not natural for English speakers, so I always seem to choose the wrong preposition based on the way my English brain is wired.
One thing Duolingo did make clear to me was this preposition selection: "La caramella è NEL piatto". In english we say the candy is ON the plate. So before Duolingo I would have said "La caramella è sul piatto". I would love to see more of this kind of thing. (other examples: in English we say "what is on TV tonight" but in Italian you would say "Che c'è IN TV stasera?" Do I use "a" after "continuare" or do I use " di". For "andare" there are a whole bunch of choices: "Vado in bici", "vado a vivere", "Vado in giro per la città" .
Also I over use "di", when I should be using "a". I can't get past it for some reason and feel that it is something that needs to come from constant exposure and repetition. (for example: you use the Preposition "A" after "pensare" when pensare is followed by a verb, but to use "di" after "pensare" when it is followed by a noun".) This is something that just simply needs to be MEMORIZED and come out of you because it JUST SOUNDS CORRECT to you without you knowing why.
Also, when SHOULD a preposition be articulated and when should it just used as a simple preposition.
People always tell me that prepositions are the pesky little things that continue to trip up all language learners, but are a sure way to tell that a person isn't a native speaker. So I think it is REALLY important to address that stumbling block and create a DUOLINGO MODULE that really helps us to over come that learning problem. Grazie!
Okay, now I understand what you're asking for. You're right it's a tricky thing and it follows a different pattern than english. I'll go looking for something like that because I'm sure that it's somewhere out there in the internet. In the meanwhile I found some interesting examples: http://grammatica-italiana.dossier.net/grammatica-italiana-06.htm (very detailed) http://grammatica-italiana.dossier.net/grammatica-italiana-13.htm (this one looks good) http://www.italica.rai.it/principali/lingua/grammar/more/uso_prep.htm IN preposition: http://www.scudit.net/mdingram.htm DA preposition: http://www.scudit.net/mddagram.htm DI preposition: http://www.scudit.net/mddigram.htm
I have to say this is something that someone should really try (and fail) many times before it gets beaten into the head :)
This is why the Vocabulary tab was so useful to me. If you could organize your vocab by word type, you could click on "prepositions" and continue to learn to use prepositions in the same way that you already use DL.
I'm struggling somewhat with this too. Thought it's not just a vocabulary thing, but specifically which preposition is used with a given verb. As you say, the patterns are very different from English!