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How to pronounce "r" as in the word "beroep"

It quite surprised me when I heard the correct pronounciation of BEROEP as I definitely heard the sound of "g" or "ch" for the letter R. I always pronounce the letter R as the sound in gebruiken or vrijf. Did I hear it correctly or is there second way to pronounce the letter R?

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Osnakezz
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There are many ways to pronounce the R in Dutch.

There's the 'proper R', (okay, tongue in cheek, but it is really seen as the standard) which I myself use. It corresponds to the 'rolling R', or in IPA: /r/.

I'm going to list all R's mostly used in the Netherlands here:

IPA Sound and name - Dutch name translated to English - Used in

• /r/ Alvolear trill - the rolling R - the standard around.
• /ɹ/ Alvolear approximant - the Gooise R - the regio 'Het Gooi' and in Leiden
• /ɻ/ Retroflex approximant - (no name) - some speakers
• /ɽ/ Retroflex flap - (no name) - North Brabant and the northern provinces
• /ɽ͡r/ Retroflex trill - (no name) - North Brabant and North Holland
•/ʀ/ Uvular trill - throat-R - used in the Southern provinces and in The Hague
•/ʁ/ Voiced uvular fricative - (no name) - almost all dialects save for the Low Saxon ones and regarding Belgium, used in Belgian Limburg + East Flanders.
• /ɾ/ Alvolear flap - (no name) - used in Hasselt, Belgian Limburg

Generally, /r/, /ɽ͡r/ (at the beginning of a word), /ɽ/, and /ɾ/ are seen as quite accepted. The other R-pronunciations will not really make you be disliked, but mostly people will give funny looks at you. The worst you could have is when you say a Gooi R - logopædists and most parents dislike that sound.

If you want to not be confused; just learn to roll R's (the first one) and you'll be fine.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cam_and_Alex
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Sometimes when I pronounce things (albeit, I'm not native; my accent just may need more work), I "roll" my "r"s. Not like in Spanish with an "Rrrrrr", but with my tongue kinda touching the top front of my mouth, if that makes sense. I think that might be just a bit of Russian carryover if it is not a part of the Dutch accent ever, but my accent isn't perfect anyway, I know that much.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Taaltjesman

A Spanish 'r' is perfect for Dutch, as long as you pronounce it as a single 'r' in Spanish and not as the double r. The latter one rolls a bit too much.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cam_and_Alex
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Right. That's what I meant. =)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/staycranked

you don't pronounce it as g or ch. just like in wrijf yes

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zeem.uk
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Here's an example of the pronunciation of the word 'beroep', in a very funny video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9fwthzrYQU

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vytah
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I found this 7-minute video about the pronunciation of R: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C8iwl2pNlQ

In short: almost any R-like sound is fine.

1 year ago
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