"Mihermanoesunestudiantedeuniversidad."

Translation:My brother is a university student.

5 years ago

40 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/jill.99
jill.99
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My brother is a student of unversity... that makes sense to me, and it's the direct translation. I've noticed the direct translation doesn't always make sense, but in this case, it does to me.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JGarrick62

"A student of university" is not a natural phrase in English. I don't think it's even proper grammar. You can be a student of A university or a student of THE university, but you need one or the other article in there. To say someone is a student at the university level, you would just say "university student."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/picklsmasterson

in the Uk, ive heard them say things like "when do you go to university? i start university this fall". its like lunch.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hagson

I agree, "student of the university" should work.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkjacobt4

"My brother is a university student" works 4/4/14

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rtwoneday
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That's what I put as well, but if they're saying that this sentence means "my brother is a college student." Then it shouldn't be marked right because now if I try and say this to a native, they're going to think I'm an idiot.

I think as a community we need to stop reporting things that seem like they should be right. Or maybe we just need more people to comment on these disscusions farther down the tree, because I would much rather loose a fake heart, then some pride.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NenadPetro15

It works but it is wrong! It need to say "My brother is AN university student"

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jellylava
jellylava
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It is not wrong for this reason - even though the article 'a' precedes a 'u', in this case, the rule is not applied because of the way the u is pronounced in university, i.e. yoo rather than oo. The same would be true for union, united or universe.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NenadPetro15

Interesting... Did not know that, thanks!

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Hucklebeary

"a student of university" is just horrible English so that translation is ... no lol. A student of subject, like "my brother is a student of engineering" yeah, but not "of university". Of THE university would be fine, but then you'd want to use the article "la". So it would read

"mi hermano es un estudiante de la universidad".

A thing about "de". If you remember back to the possessive lessons, we learned that de is used to denote possession.

  • la camisa de él - the shirt of him(literal) - His shirt(proper)
  • los zapatos de ellos - the shoes of them(literal) - Their shoes (proper)

sure you can use the su and sus forms in those examples, but I'm pretty sure they taught us the de version for many a reason. One of which being things like this... this is pretty much showing possession of "the student" and the student belonging to the "university" in question. So learning from the possessive lessons, we know to basically just flip that word that follows de behind the word the preceded de. A big clue I've seen so far is if it doesn't have the article there -- de la or del -- then it's showing possession and the words need to be flipped. It's the difference between

  • ella es una empleada de banco - she is a bank employee.

and

  • ella es una empleada del banco - she is an employee of the bank.
4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DBradleyRI

I agree, but maybe that would require "del" rather than "de"? Someone please advise!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarikeH

I would also like to now why in this case it is not de la universidad? Does anyone have an idea why?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jmarzw
jmarzwPlus
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I think of it as de universidad talking about the abstract idea of "university-level student", while de la universidad, while it could also work here, could in contrast refer to a specific university. Its a weird phrase, but this is one of the ones where it (can) just work that way

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/frenchomelette

de is used when a noun is describing another noun (book shelf = shelf of book) so it means university student (basically you're right)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/krinoline
krinoline
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agree...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimVahl

In the U.S., at least, there is a definite difference between a college and a university. Only a university can offer advanced degrees. In Spanish can universidad mean college?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Yep, I'm pretty sure, depending on the country Colegio is high school In the USA there is a distinct difference between college and university, but many people (apart those of us in or were in the academic world) don't make the distinction. Parents are asked "Where is Suzie going to college" and if the answer is Michigan, Ohio State, etc. that is fine. We speak of "college football" and the NCAA is the National Collegiate Athletic Association -- even though the majority of members are universities.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sallyann_54

Same in England, where college is not = university. They are different institutions and have different levels of education.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JGarrick62

That's generally the case, but it's more a guideline than a rule. Institutions of higher education can call themselves whatever they want in the United States. Dartmouth College is an example that breaks the mold. Boston College is another. MIT uses neither college nor university in it's name.

And, as rspreng also noted, most people use "college" regardless of how the actual school is named.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HannahNica59

In central america, at least, colegio is a high school not a university. in the states college and university are often interchanged.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jellylava
jellylava
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"My brother is a student at university" was marked wrong and the correction was that I should have put 'the' university. As far as I know it is perfectly normal and correct to say 'at university' without inserting 'the'. I realize the sense becomes slightly different, however it is difficult to know which sense is implied by the Spanish text.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BenGarman

exactly the same for me. I'm confident Duo is wrong in this instance.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Don90254

College is colegio. It is not a "university"; universidad....

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShipMaster

colegio is high school

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hunterw246

I thought college was colegio...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rmcgwn

Sorry not where I am, college and university (colegio y universidad) are definitely not the same. But good to know elsewhere they are interchangeable.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/e4e5sesame

If un/una is usually omitted when talking about professions, why is it required here?

"My brother is a doctor" is "mi hermano es doctor", so "my brother is a university student" should be "mi hermano es estudiante de universidad", right?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xylidic

Sigh I had to read this and record it and I tried like ten times (I never ever have this problem) yet it couldn't recognise what I said. Bye bye heart D: (on the app if it can't understand you you don't lose a heart >.>)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sbreese

Xyldic, this happened to me as well. But I was able to successfully pass it when I left off "de universidad" and just spoke "Mi hermano es un estudiate".

This appears to be a bug which I hope Duolingo can fix!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnBerliner

I don't understand why "My brother is a student at the university" is marked incorrect. THe literal translation "my brother is a student of the university" sounds like it was translated by a foreigner, or that my brother studies *the concept of the university", or that he studies the university itself.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Audrey5775

The literal translation is actually "My brother is a university student."

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mattdepomp

I was told you don't but un or una in front of a profession. Why is it here

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/spanishismygame1

duolingo is broken

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ijaz180947

for me instead of brother it said bro

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShipMaster

My brother is a student in university should work. In English in and at are interchangeable

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/atntony
atntony
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university student. OKAY?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/galesl

In British English, "student" on its own usually means someone who studies at university. So "university student" is redundant, and people just say "student". But Duolingo marked me as wrong for leaving out "university".

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Johngt44
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And was correct to do so! Apart from being a poor translation of the given sentence, ignoring a key word, I am not even sure your point is true. Amongst university students probably true but very many students at non- university institutions would so call themselves, eg art college student, etc and even at high school level sixth form (college) student is very common. I am against word-for-word translation but your cavalier approach to a six-word sentence, deleting one of the words, is something else!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexis.elizondo

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2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jess371314

For all the american people that read this. in spanish never say "Voy al colegio" because seems that you're saying. "I will go to the elementary school"

2 years ago
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