Hi there, è il mio primo messaggio e non so bene come funzioni, quindi nel caso sbagli qualcosa spero possiate perdonarmi :-). Ho finito da poco tutte le lezioni di "inglese per chi parla italiano", e ora cosa posso fare? Per adesso ho iniziato il ripasso, però vorrei sapere cosa Duolingo, o la sua comunità, ha da offrire. Thank you in advance.
Keep practicing.... You might want to try the Italian for English speakers course.
The lessons evolve, so keep practicing and try to start talking, have you been speaking English with a native speaker very much? I find it quite easy to read Italian (many words, not all of course), but listening to the radio is quite difficult.
I am trying to talk in Italian at least twice per week, and therefore I keep reading and listening each day with the objective of it gradually getting better - I think it will simply take a long time for everything to become more natural and easy to recall, recalling words in order to speak with correct grammar is quite different to reading and simply understanding a language!
I have seen and I am seeing a lot of tv shows in english language. Indeed i have improved a lot my listening's skill. But i am italian and i live in Rome, so for me is very tough to do a good conversation in english. Probably i will follow an english course. Anyway i will keep practicing in order to improve my english and also because I would like to do IELTS' exam. :-)
In my experience Italians know bits of English before they would start Duo because it's so prevalent in the news and on TV, my cousins for example know bits of English (they live just north of Venice) and would do better learning English than me learning Italian. Both of my parents were born in Italy but didn't teach us Italian in fear we would do badly at school, so I have an Italian name and can speak only a small amount of Italian still.
I wish it were the other way around (that sentance by the way is as complicated as English subjective gets!) and Italian was easier than English to speak. Both languages have the reverse grammar of one another, but Italian has more tenses, conjugations, more articles, and gender - there seems to be more abbreviations such as domattina. English is harder to spell, but may be ok to simply speak, the grammar is again the reverse. In terms of pronunciation you will most likely be adding vowels to the end of many words, so you can practice that.
The other main difference with the Italian language to English is that "fare" is used very often. You fare una domanda, fare a conversation etc, for example above you mentioned that it is hard for you to "do" a conversation (it should be "have"), but you have a very good vocabulary and are quite understandable. I think you could formulate a good 20-40 exercises to practice that would get most of your grammar rules in pretty good shape, and then all you need to do is talk!
How much English did you know before you started Duo? And how long has it taken for you to get to level 11? You seem way ahead of me speaking Italian (congratulations!), and I've been learning quite solidly for six months.
Thank you for making me notice that i had to use "have a conversation" instead of "do a conversation". Thank you so much. Anyway, I'm italian so I can speak in italian without problems XD, but i am not so good in english as you can see :-). I have started with duo, more or less, 2 years ago. But i restarted 12 days ago, and i have finished the lessons' tree. I am an engineering student and i would like to win a scholarship for studying abroad but, to increase the possibilities, i have to do an international certificate for english language. So i am studying as much as possible, but is not easy for me because i have to do some exams of my faculty. Yea we use a lot the verb fare :-) Fare la pasta---fare i compiti---fare conversazione. What did you mean when you have said "I think you could formulate a good 20-40 exercises......". And, which is your native language? I am italian, and you?
Sono Australiano, da Melbourne! Quindi, la mia lingua è inglese. Dopo sei mesi sto trovando che italiano è abbastanza difficile per me.
Thankfully I have a teacher to speak with twice per week, my mum once or twice a week, and started language exchange recently with a person in Italy. I'm sure that after another six months it will be much better, I mainly need to improve vocabulary, listening skills, and the speed of my brain ;)
With regard to my comment, I am noticing only a few things that you need to improve in your writing, and if you were wanting to improve them you could formulate between 20 and 40 different exercises to practice which would help you improve them. That's with your writing. When you speak or write with a native speaker they will pick up the things that I mention, and suggest those improvements.
But really, your written English is truly quite good!
@stefanogt1 -- Thank you, I have a long way to go!
@Grashof -- Keep up your studies, you've done brilliantly and now it really is "honing" the finer points because you are very accurate in your writing. Best of luck!
Ciao e complimenti. Scrivo in italiano per evitare brutte figure....
Visto che studi italiano, mi permetto di sollevare alcune note.
Per prima cosa, a differenza dell'inglese, in italiano si conserva l'articolo davanti all'idioma, quindi meglio scrivere
Quindi, la mia lingua è l'inglese.
Aggiungerei che il "quindi", lega la frase alla precedente: in altre parole non cominciare una frase con "quindi", pertanto sostituisci il punto esclamativo con la virgola.
Riguardo alla seconda frase io scriverei, cercando di esserle il più fedele possibile:
Dopo sei mesi di studio, trovo che l'apprendimento dell'italiano è piuttosto difficile.
Il tempo presente italiano è un presente vero, inoltre è chiaro che parli di te stesso, quindi il "me" si omette poichè appesantirebbe la frase.
Spero di esserti stato utile.
"Sono Australiano, da Melbourne! Quindi, la mia lingua è inglese. Dopo sei mesi sto trovando che italiano è abbastanza difficile per me." it becomes (fo example)-----> "Sono Australiano, di Melbourne! Quindi la mia lingua è l"inglese. Dopo sei mesi trovo l'italiano ancora abbastanza difficile." :-) Thank's for your explanation and advice. I will certainly follow it. The difficulties for me in english are the same of yours in italian. I have too improve my vocabulary and, the most important, the speed of my brain :-). Thank you so much.
@SolarisL thank you for inspiring me to keep practice and thanks for the new great word "honing" :-). Best of luck.
I would say your English is near perfect based on your writing. You might make a very small error here or there but certainly better than some native English speakers who write on the internet.
I'm flattered, thank you so much :-). The thing is I spent too much time to make a sentence (is it correct to write it?). So I have to speed up. Again, thank's.