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Difficult opening chapter for Hebrew

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The Hebrew introduction sections are very difficult compared to the three other language introduction sections I've taken, Russian, Spanish, German. I had to go on YouTube and Google translate to figure out what was going on. Added to the fact that Hebrew doesn't notate vowels without niqqud marks, which aren't included on Duolingo, this language has notably less audio pairing and translatable underlined words. When I'm using this language section I feel like I'm memorizing symbol sequences without data integration for audio, meaning or grammar. I understand you're trying to introduce fewer letters at first but the shapes of the symbols in the first couple words, mom, dad, come, and love seem very easy to mix up. If that's not confusing enough "the dad" and "dad" have two different spellings that are extremely similar and there is a difference in verbs that end or don't end in the letter "Hey". I've figured most of these issues out but these items could be a lot more intuitive within the app.

1/2/2017, 2:42:45 PM

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https://www.duolingo.com/jcollado
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I agree on the difficulty of learning Hebrew. I have been in the same situation (using external resources to try to figure things out), but haven't made much progress so far.

I appreciate the hard work made by the volunteers that created the course, but maybe some other approach is needed to make it easier to get started. One option could be to use transliteration at least in the introductory lessons. I believe this is what has been done in the Greek course, so it should be possible to do it for other languages.

1/2/2017, 5:42:01 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/TheZadanian

I very much agree. I'm just starting the Hebrew course on here and I'm finding it almost impossible without external sources.

The main problem is the lack of audio. I am shown a group of symbols with no pronunciation and then expected to both retain and repeat those symbols. This could happen three or four times before I ever get to a recorded sentence contain the word in question.

The fact of the matter is that without either vowel pointing, or an audio recording, we are left with nothing but consonants; random groupings of consonants aren't words.

If I could simply click on the word in question and hear it (like in other languages), that would solve most of this problem.

1/15/2017, 7:45:00 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/cbsimb1

Amen

1/5/2017, 12:26:08 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/reuvenrich
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Hebrew is objectively hard as it's different form the Indo-European languages' family, is RTL with different letters.

But regardless of the above, the current hebrew-duolingo course really sucks, i would not recommend it.

i'm a native speaker, and for the life of me i can't complete the course, not because hebrew is hard for me, it's because the current (beta) version is misleading, has so many mistakes and weird phrases.

Also, i wouldn't even try to learn and teach 'nikud' - which rightfully frustrates new learners- it's irrelevant and adds unnecessary complication.

I would assume French, German, Italian native speakers can complete the corresponding duolingo courses, not so for Hebrew.

1/30/2017, 6:44:08 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/fractal_shadow
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I think ideal would be a section that is just the alphabet [but I heard that isn't possible on Duolingo]. Then gradually add more words, ensuring that all words have vowels so we can roughly figure out how to pronounce it - better yet, audio for every new word.

5/12/2017, 2:24:07 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/datboi2pac

tgk

6/6/2017, 8:41:51 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/jfs54
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I have to agree, sadly the Hebrew section of Duolingo is sort of lazy. Almost none of the practice/learning sections have a "slowed down" turtle version nor are there help hints on most. Being such a difficult language, these are key.

12/9/2017, 9:17:57 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/TeribleTeri

I recommend doing to Hebrew alphabet course at memrise first, then hopping over to YouTube at channel Linguistix for his pronunciation lessons. Then come back here. (I also suggest the memrise Duolingo Hebrew vocab course, I didn't even notice they were symbiotic, I started that first, and it's made Duolingo worlds easier!!)

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