https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

486 days ... to the finished tree!

Lots of people post that they have completed their tree in record time. That's brilliant!

But if you are not so fast, here's hope... I have a 486 day streak and only this morning did I finish my German tree. I have kept it golden as I have gone along. I set my daily XP at 20 so some days I only revised lessons and didn't learn anything new.

I don't think I'm very good though my reading comprehension has improved. I'm off to Berlin next week so who knows ...

I am listening to podcasts like Slow German, watching videos on Youtube like Easy German and I also have some kids' books on my kindle.

Next challenge - reverse tree!

Also, thanks, Duolingo!

January 12, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dorianbtdp

Well done! Better that than rushing trees, not keeping anything golden and remember 1/10th of what you've learnt :)

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sheldolina

Slow and steady... finishes the tree! Congratulations, it's great that you've been able to work on your German so consistently! Good luck with your further studies :)

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GwenHembrock

That's exactly how I'm going through the French tree (20 xp/day, keeping it golden). Thanks for the heads up on how long it might take to make it through! (I'm at 64 days so far).

And congratulations!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/buck72

Ausgezeichnet! Congratulations! The Reverse German Tree provided new sentences and words, I found it helpful. Going off to Berlin will provide some real world experience to see how you're doing. Have fun! :)

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

I hope so. I visited Bremen last year and once I left the main city and went out into the smaller towns, where people were less likely to default to English, I found that I could just about get by if people were patient with me. I know Berlin is quite cosmopolitan but I hope I can ask people to speak to me in nice, easy German.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GwenHembrock

The very northwestern part of Germany was the only place I found where I absolutely needed my German. I spent a month driving around all of Germany and everywhere else seemed eager to speak English. My German did pay off when I visited the home of my ancestors - Hopsten (where Hembrocks are as common as Smiths). I would imagine though that any place you go you'd be able to find at least some people willing to talk with you in German. I hope you have a great time!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chooyo

It's pretty easy to find people to speak to you in German in Berlin once you get away from the major tourist spots ... many people will switch to English but just answer them in German and they will normally help you out.

If you're using the U-Bahn, try and find the free BVG booklets for some reading practice and watch the TVs in the cars since the texts are pretty easy - understanding the cashiers at the large supermarkets are another story altogether ;-) Have fun and dress for a damp winter.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenutzerB

Or visit the Bundestag and pick up a copy of Der Bundestag Leicht Gemacht. It is like the content on this site: https://www.bundestag.de/leichte_sprache/

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

I met a lot of people in Berlin who only knew a few words of English. I actually had problems one night trying to take a bus and I spoke Tarzan German with some older ladies, they were super nice and helped me out. I also met people in small cafes who spoke little English and I had the same experience in other cities.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnaGuaGua

congrats!!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

Congratulations!!! How nice that you are going to Berlin, have a wonderful time. I recommend Memrise official A2 course instead of the reverse tree, even A1 is useful.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

A1 and A2 have been replaced by offical 1-7.
Check the Memrise FAQ and community forums what is what.
It might depend on the course as the forum told something different like B1=7.
A1 = 1-3
A2 = 4-5
B1 = 6-7

Memrise FAQ (http://feedback.memrise.com/knowledgebase/articles/955108-a1-und-a2-sprachkurse in English, German translation is horrible) quote:
"Courses 1 to 3 are equivalent to previous A1 courses (beginners).
Learners of A2 courses (intermediate) should choose courses 4 or 5.
Courses 6 and 7 are at B1 level (upper intermediate/advanced).

Kurse 1 bis 3 sind etwa dem Niveau A1 (Anfänger) gleichzusetzen.
A2 - (Zwischen-) Niveau entspricht Kurse 4 und 5.
Kurse 6 und 7 sind auf dem Niveau B1 (obere Mittelstufe / Fortgeschrittene)."

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

Thanks. I have the originals because I did them about a year ago, but you are right there are new ones with better sound. I only have done a little bit of 7 so I cannot comment much. Edit: I do not like German 7 it is vocabulary without context.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

That's interesting, thank you, I might check them out again.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Thank you, yes, at first I started with Memrise, then I used Memrise at the same time as Duolingo, but I found Duolingo more useful for me and the way I work. But it was very good and I might revisit it.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JaDeutsche

Have you tried the Memrise German 1-7 courses? They apparently replaced the A1 and A2 courses, but I'm curious to know if they are as good.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

I have not tried them. I am redoing A2 right now, it has a lot of vocabulary and I like the long sentences. Edit: They have better pronunciation (from the Memrise bus) I prefer the old courses, but these new ones are probably better.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AwLYMM

Well done, If you can watch Gute zeiten schlechte zeiten, because they talk street German, and now has UT. A German soap set in Berlin.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Thank you, I will look out for it!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/valholl

I'm in an even worse situation: 443 days streak, 10XP daily target, golden tree, and I've been almost stuck just past mid-tree for weeks.

Maintaining the streak has kept me from completely abandoning Duolingo, however, and now and then I manage to do 50-100 XPs per day for a few days and advance a bit, so I'm hopeful that in a year or two I'll finally get to the end of it.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

I had a quick look into your tree.
In Deutschland sagt man: "Ein Faß ohne Boden"...
...so many skills grey and old ones get colored.
But nice to see you fighting through the tree...and you have achieved so much already!

BTW: My Portuguese (PT) is no difference. I will have "much fun" in the future.

When I just have a look at my upcoming Memrise DuoLingo PT levels:
- Adjectives 1
- Present 2 verbs
- Adverbs

it may happen that I get knocked-out much sooner before I even reach tenses :-)
I made the failure to already count all those contained words in Memrise course levels :-)

Do I even have plans to read Grammar books and DuoLingo important preposition threads and so on? That all takes time to really try to understand...

You could try Android app on Bluestacks (emulator / app player on PC/Windows) once.
The mobile app is IMHO a little bit easier, and I made some good progress when I was stuck on the web interface and did not want to start a new skill.
You still can review all those hard skill/lessons later on the Web interface (typing, not tapping).
Maybe you can give yourself with 1-2 skills and some lessons a push with it when it is not that hard as the web interface?

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KellieWhite

How do you look at someone else's tree?

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss
January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

@KellieWhite

Quote: How do you look at someone else's tree?

Nowadays it works like this: http://www.duome.eu/USERNAME/progress

October 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JaDeutsche

Congrats! That's streak shows incredible dedication.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Or stubbornness ... that's TWO Christmas Days I still did my German!

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RoySaPna

I didn't know initially that the tree is supposed to be kept golden :-( So my level increased but fluency decreased to 5%. Now I am only revising.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Oh no!

January 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heschmat

Well done, that's a great achievement. :-)
Instead of reverse tree, I recommend 'Deutsche Welle', they have wonderful leaerning materials for free, tailored to different levels. Also, I found 'Ted Talks' very interesting, they are mostly in spoken language, and you often can find the translation from English to almost any language, this helps a lot.

Alles Gute,
Heschmat

January 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimmyGinIB

Congratulations! Let us know how it goes in Berlin, please.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/germanwannabee

Herzlichen Glückwunsch und viel Glück in Berlin!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenutzerB

Viel Spaß in Berlin! Ich habe im letzten Jahr fünf Monate in Berlin gewohnt. Es ist gut, dass Sie keine Angst vom Anschlag haben. Berlin ist schön, sicher, und die Leute sind nett.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Oh btw, www.languagecourse.net vocabulary trainer (VT) besides www.50languages.com also has some travel/hotel & co. sentences/phrases topics ready, according to their description (I have not tried those sentence topics yet).

Have fun in Berlin.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KellieWhite

I had my tree entirely golden yesterday, and today 10 skills were one notch down. That is at least 100xp just to stay level. How did you ever get anywhere on 20 a day?
How does the 'needs strengthening' thing work anyway?

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

On 20 a day - really really slowly! That reminds me I need to log out of German-English and back into English-German to keep it golden.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CannedLock

I'm just starting to learn German, and if it takes almost 500 days to complete, then I've got a long road ahead of me.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Slow and steady - just keep it fun :)

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HD123

I finished the French tree in about 6 months. It depends upon how much time you choose to devote each day. I'm currently using Anki to review old vocab in addition to the regular Duolingo course. The spaced repetition on Anki works much better for me than Duolingo's review system. You have to manually input the words into Anki (or you could find some vocab decks online), but once the words are in the program, the review process is very simple. Here's a link to the Anki website: https://apps.ankiweb.net/.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Thank you! I used anki before but I left it too long between sessions and everything piled up.

January 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HD123

Nice job! I'm currently learning German as well. Viel Glück mit Ihre Reise nach Berlin!

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/senyb

Viel Glück! Machen Sie spaß in Deutschland!

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Doriandaniel

Congrats!

January 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jackie_Devil

congrats :))!!

January 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Let us know how your speaking practice turned out in Berlin :-)

BTW: I started a new "What to change / optimize in my Portuguese learning process. Shall I switch to Spanish?" thread: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20450828


You may have to optimize taking new skills (on your reverse tree course) on DuoLingo. The skill stays unfinished some days, right? When do you review those? Only when it's finished or after taking 2-4 lessons (out of 8 or 10 total)?

DuoLingo: Spaced repetition for unfinished skill / Memrise: How to do unfinished level word review: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20462790

January 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

Berlin was amazing! Last year when I went to Bremen, when I spoke German, I had always "prepared" the sentences in my head - and this meant I stuck to them, and usually didn't understand the replies I got. This time, it was a lot more natural. I got into actual conversations with people!

Me and my friend, who doesn't speak German, were invited onto a Stammtisch (locals' table) in a pub by two farmers from Munster who were in Berlin for an agricultural protest march. They didn't really speak English but we talked about where we were from, what we were doing, Brexit, Trump, refugees, and all sorts of things I could not imagine doing. I was really pleased that I could understand them (even with their accents) and they could understand me.

Shops and restaurants were easy.

I was also able to understand most of the advertising and newspaper headlines, using my dictionary for one or two words. I found that I could get most sentences if I knew most of the words and could work out the context.

I think it helped that I hadn't just used Duolingo. Watching Easy German on youtube, having the Slow German podcasts in my car, reading/listening to Top Thema and slowly spoken news on DW, and also Buzzfeed Deutschland have been very useful.

Also - my German is NOT grammatical. If I tried to write any of this in German it would be horrible. But my aim was to communicate, and I did. I didn't stop to worry about der-die-das. If you know verbs and nouns, and have a rough idea of word order, you can get through most things.

January 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

@autumn

How is it going with your reverse tree?

Quote Autumn: Next challenge - reverse tree!

Quote Usagiboy7:
There is the reverse course.
I am always curious if people plan to do reverse and ladder trees
Source: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29156220$comment_id=29165506

Starting a course from German on the web portal = writing / translating into German (on the right hand side) on a higher (better) ratio even on lower crown L0-L2 (L3) levels

(My) Tips and audio tricks for reverse and laddering trees

How do you do a reverse tree / The reverse tree helps - how to be able to listen to the target language audio:
- https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29266026$comment_id=29267079
- https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29262469$comment_id=29266698

October 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VijayKumar676995

Congrats Sir that was a Great achievment. May you have 3 wives Sir.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

I'll stick with my one husband but thank you very much :)

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Congratulations!

I can tell you that I also will not finish my Portuguese tree in 60 to 90 days record time ;)
The estimate is not sooner than Q1/2018 based on my previous XP/day, so it will be about >1 year to finish the tree or I have to switch to 100-150XP/day mode ;)

76 days are already over....only 17-18% lessons have been finished (73/413)....how fast the time just passes by...

Three skills from before are to review, but I have to practice those skills on Memrise first....so I have to add another 3-5 days, before I can even try to strengthen them on DuoLingo.
It makes no sense for me to jump to the next skill occupation with it's 8 lessons, as the 3 previous skills are still that week.

Too bad, I simply can not rush through the DuoLingo tree if I want to remember/learn something, even the estimate for new lessons does require it that badly from me...

Sometimes I have the feeling that I am double learning:
English + Portuguese (well, actually I am).


Have you started the reverse tree course already? :-)

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/autumn558445

I have started the reverse tree, yes, to maintain this streak I worked so hard to get!

When I was doing the German tree I felt as though it went in fits and starts. I mean, some days and weeks I made lots of progress and then at other times everything seemed to stop. Just keep going...

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

How good are you in remembering all those vocabularies?

You can give yourself a test by learing 68 A1-B1 words per session on www.languagecourse.net vocabulary trainer VT and see when VT changes from superlearning mode to quiz-mode (either typing or free translate mode) if you could RECALL any of those 68 shown words.
You can have multiple 68 word sessions per day, until your A2 1250 words goal is finished.

The good thing about VT in free translate mode (not Website typing mode) is, that it gives you a 3rd "Yes, I know this word very well long-term, do NOT ask me again" button.
If you press this YES button, the word is moved to the 6th Leitner index card box.
If that happens it shall not ask you in further (long-term) repetitions about those words anymore.


Let me give you the challange:
Will you remember all 1250 presented A2 words?
How many shown B1 words are you going to remember or even RECALL well (index card box 6 or at least enough to move the word to index card box 1)?

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_USA

Do it at your pace. That is what is most useful to you. I've learned to let my other trees go while I focus on completing each new tree and then after go back and make the rest golden again. I went down to 10 XP per day (1 lesson) simply because it takes off pressure to keep a streak and French sinks in far better when I go very slow with it. It's my hardest language and I wasn't getting it until I slowed way way down. I approach duo way differently than when I first started and tried to get as much as I could done as fast as I could.

June 2, 2017
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