https://www.duolingo.com/JensBu

Japanese in the Incubator

Japanese for English speakers is in the Incubator! https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/ja/en/status

Unfortunately there are no contributors. Probably they will be added soon because I believe many people have already applied. Although I don't know if they know enough Japanese / English to be accepted. Looking at the status, it has made progress already.

Anyway, awesome to see it has finally been added.

January 12, 2017

33 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/hideki

We're sorry. I'm confirming it's a glitch.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/QuadraticLingual

Well, that's disappointing!

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Hohenems

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6

Haahaha :-)

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/wyqtor

Please let it not be just a test like last time!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/QuadraticLingual

I'm thinking the exact same thing. If this is another test, I would be severely disappointed.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/WildSage

I won't believe it's real until I can do Basics 1.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/miacomet

It's no longer up in the incubator. Unfortunately, it looks like it was a test...

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/hruart

can you guys please tell me what happened last time?

May 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

Since there has been no announcement, I would assume this is just a test, and should be ignored. There has been a course in the incubator for a while, but it had been hidden. I assume it has been unhidden by mistake.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/hughcparker

I'm not sure. Announcements aren't Duolingo's strong point, and when they do make them, they usually wait until everyone in the forums has already found out.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

We will have to wait and see.

Often when a course launches with no contributors, there is a post requesting people to apply. (But yeah, if they have contributors, then they don't seem to see the need to publicise it.) Also, the partial completion looks iffy.

I just think with the recent problems, perhaps the course became unhidden. There has been a hidden course for a while - someone posted screenshots a while back.

However, I will be very happy to be proven wrong.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Irusejka

A hidden course? So they work on courses before they're added to the incubator? How many such hidden courses there are? How can I see them?

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/hughcparker

I don't think you'll be able to see them. That's the thing about things that are hidden :)

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

This is the staff answer, from just a month ago, regarding whether Duolingo's software engineers are working on the problem of supporting Japanese and Chinese.

The answer continues to be that there are some very difficult problems we need to solve in order to offer these languages, and this will take significant time.

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/19242916

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

And here is what Luis wrote on Reddit just three days ago:

[...] Yes, we know a lot of languages are missing, and yes we have a plan to work on them. Doing this, however, takes time, and unfortunately it's not our number one priority. We have a team of ~80 people, and together we have to serve literally tens of millions of active users. Personally, I'd rather improve how well we teach the languages we currently have (which cover more than 80% of the language learning needs of the world), than spend time adding difficult-to-add new languages. Contrary to popular belief, while Japanese and Chinese have huge numbers of speakers, proportionally not that many English speakers want to learn them. For example, of all English speakers learning a language, ~50% are learning Spanish, ~25% French, and the other 25% is split up among all other languages (the top being German and Italian). Only about 6% are learning Chinese, and even fewer are learning Japanese.

https://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/comments/5mytff/comment/dc87sag

Edit: So having read this, I was pretty surprised to see Japanese in the Incubator... But I guess the fact that it could slip into Phase 1 means that it's there being worked on in some form. It's not like back when they accidentally launched Swahili instead of Swedish because they got the codes for the languages wrong... ;-)

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl

I guess that means we shouldn't hold our breath for Finnish then. :(

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer

That partly depends on whether you classify Finnish as a difficult-to-add language or not. As a layman I would imagine it isn't since Hungarian was added and sorted out, which means I'm still keeping faith.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

They are making changes to the software all the time. It wouldn't surprise me to see them testing these against a dummy course, so they can get a feel for how close they are to supporting languages like Japanese. Quite often design teams build prototypes just to improve their understanding - which may be what was done here. Either way, something like this shows interest, but not any immediate plans.

I would very much like a Japanese course, but I Imagine it will be some time.

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/KevanSF

The fact that it shows so much progress (way over half done) without a single contributor leads me to believe it's some sort of test or placeholder. I guess we'll find out in due time. . .

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JensBu

It is automatically calculated. If they create one skill and complete half of it in an otherwise empty tree the tree is 50% complete. Sometimes contributors leave.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

They left immediately?

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6

They never arrived

January 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson

Or perhaps never existed! :-)

January 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Gerardd88

It was like that a few weeks ago. I posted about it like you when I noticed it but after a while someone from the JA→EN team said it was a glitch and they deleted it. There are no contributors visible so this may be a glitch, too. Anyway, the fact that it happened twice recently must mean that, even if this is a glitch, they are certainly working on the course and it may be just a matter of time.

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MissCamden

that was my first reaction: another glitch, so soon after the previous one? what are they doing with this course to make it glitch so often? sure teaches us not to get our hopes up. hopefully one day it'll be real.

January 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/PolMicheal

I'm certainly glad that it's not April 1st!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/QuadraticLingual

I am so excited for a Japanese course!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/nmillerche

This is awesome news, thanks for the heads up!

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Vedun

Wow, wasn't expecting it to be added this soon, honestly. If it indeed isn't a test like last time, it may pave the way for Chinese, and then some other popularly requested languages afterwards...

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NeonMoogle

Oh my word, PLEASE be real and not just a glitch!!!

It is a glitch. :(

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Francy-Chan

Seriously??? Wow!! This is a wonderful news! I am so excited!! ❤

January 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/buunny

Hell yeah!!!

January 16, 2017
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