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Starting a second course and keeping motivated for the first.

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I started a second course (Spanish) and I like that language very much. Awkwardly, after a few lessons, my other course Esperanto, seemed a lot more difficult and less inspiring to me than at first. I notice many people following a lot of courses at the same time, how do you manage to keep motivated?

1 year ago

21 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/jdroege

I don't think that working on two languages at the same time is really the problem. Just don't let what you do become a "chore." As long as it is fun, you can work on one, two, five, or ten languages at the same time!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-Katrina.-
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It all depends on your personal preference, and what works for you. I can't work on multiple courses in the same day - I tried once and mixed up Welsh with Spanish, so yeahhh, not a good idea - so now I work at one at a time. I'm focusing on Spanish mainly, though when another language interests me, I practice that for a few days.

Just work on whatever you like best, otherwise language learning will become a chore. It's okay to focus on one language at a time if that's what you enjoy. Best of luck! :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ionasky
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Do it however you feel most comfortable, five in one day, alternating days, alternating weeks whatever.

For me i keep esperanto golden, i reguild my other trees every now and again and make progress in two or three new trees only when i feel like it. Slowly i will work may way through them and finish the trees.

I have chosen to make Esperanto the language i will ultimately achieve true fluency in and do reading, listen to podcasts, watch films etc outside of duolingo everyday but only as far as i enjoy it. If it stops being fun or interesting/intrigung like a puzzle i stop and pick up again the next day.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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ionasky; Mi dankas vin. Remarkable imagery you mentioned: 'keeping esperanto golden'. Something to keep in mind.

'Sxpari esperanto ora' ?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/v.ivanov
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„Tenu Esperanton ora“ ;)

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https://www.duolingo.com/v.ivanov
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(se tio aspektas ne tre komprenebla, eble tia traduko estos pli klara)

„Via Esperanto estu ĉiam ora“ ~May your Esperanto always be golden.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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"Dankon!" ~Thank you! :D

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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"Bona ideo!" ~Good idea! :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DuoNem
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I would go chat on www.Telegramo.org or read a book. When it was too cumbersome to read or express myself, I had enough motivation to go do those exercises. I knew exactly why I needed them!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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Thank you DuoNem! (BTW Nice boxing gloves! Do they help fighting the lack of motivation? :) Then maybe I'll get a pair too :))

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanD_8
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I can actively learn only one language at a time. I shift between languages as my interest wanes and, even though it might not be the most efficient, it's what keeps my motivation going.

I return to my Esperanto tree about once every month or so and refresh. The beauty of Esperanto is you can return to it quickly without as much of an adjustment period. When I switch from Spanish to Italian or Portuguese, there's always a day or so when I mix the languages. Even when I go to a different language family, like Portuguese to Swedish, there's still an adjustment period. There's almost none of that for me when I pick up Esperanto again.

Also keep in mind you can still passively practice by reading. I have a collection of readers which I find to be less pressure than Duolingo or Memrise exercises.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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Thank you DanD8, for your reply. It is very interesting to see everyone having their own way in this. What are those readers you mention?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanD_8
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For Spanish, I use Easy Spanish Reader, by Tardy. I've yet to find a good Esperanto one.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TerraSulla

No idea how people do it. I had to stop progressing in Italian to tackle the Esperanto course. Then again, I am monolingual, so that's probably part of the problem.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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Lio Sapfa; Soon you will not be monolingual anymore! -Katrina.-, jdroege; your words will help me I'm sure;

"Not to let learning become a chore" and "as long as it is fun!"

Thank you all for your replies. I appreciate them!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BerberuEsperanto

Certiĝu vi ne redukti la instigo antaux vi atingos komforta kompreno de Esperanto.

Vi povas subteni aliajn lingvojn en kiuj vi estas komforta.

Mi sugestas vin malrapidigi kun hispana.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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berberu; Mi sxatas vian respondon, sed mi ne komprenas ĉiom (malgraux mi uzis vortaron) Bonvolu traduku gxin.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BerberuEsperanto

With Google Translate I got:

Make sure you do not reduce the incentive(should have used motivado-tion) before you reach a comfortable understanding of Esperanto.

You can support(maintain) other languages in which you are comfortable.

I suggest you slow down with Spanish. (Correct translation - until you reach EO confidence). https://translate.google.com/?source=gtx_m#eo/en/Certi%C4%9Du%20vi%20ne%20redukti%20la%20instigo%20antaux%20vi%20atingos%20komforta%20kompreno%20de%20Esperanto.%0A%0AVi%20povas%20subteni%20aliajn%20lingvojn%20en%20kiuj%20vi%20estas%20komforta.%0A%0AMi%20sugestas%20vin%20malrapidigi%20kun%20hispana.

Then if you click on in the right side words (particularly if it doesn't make sense) you get drop-down with options. Hover over and you get back translation. Those that match the original would be closest. Fast way of learning. Then you can verify understanding with good dictionary(ies).

You can start writing in your language and then check the EO translation parts to verify that they backtranslate correctly. Then you can suggest the correction if you are certain (or after you post and get feedback).

Other than doing 1 EO review lesson EVERY day, I try to find time to read from Facila Vento. I will not start other language until I start thinking in EO. Reading/listening and comprehension is more important than writing (next stage).

Bonŝancon

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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berberu; Mi dankas vin. Thank you very much for sharing all of this, you suggesting slowing down with Spanish already seems sensible to me, like all the other suggestions. Google translate works fine that way, and I also have listened to the Facilo Vento radio, nice, but a bit too difficult, for me though)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BerberuEsperanto

Saluton Joan, I can see you need motivation. Let me help, as the only thing I need is time to do all the things I'm motivated to do.

Success brings motivation and motivation brings success – spiral. So, you need initial motivation (for Esperanto) to trigger the process and follow up consistently. Set your Coach to Casual 10xp/d and Never Miss a streak (this is your daily minimum). You can buy with lingots Streak Freeze (just in case) and Double or Nothing weekly as your motivation/reward for consistent effort. These 'game' rules will keep you moving subconsciously.

Now, the next important motivator is a Mission statement. Why do you like to speak Esperanto and how will U feel when you achieve your goal? Visualise with all senses, feel it.

People learn languages because they want to discover about that culture/country, make money with it, or have friends/family that need to better communicate. Esperanto can do all that (+/-) in much shorter time with any random person/country if enough people have similar motivation (currently 2-10m+, ~300m in ~8yrs). Now, these people are very keen to communicate regardless of personal gain. Not all 'natives' are keen to communicate or are only concentrated in specific areas. When you remember the 'times table'-(prefix/suffix/correlative)s, you/we will have a leveraging tool to create many words from simple root words. Can use Memrise.com or read with dictionary/Google Translate (utilise right side drop down options and back translate at end).

There are some people that start to speak later as they need confidence or have different learning style/focus. The knowledge still cumulates and you/we need constant exposure (internet/video/music/reading/talking/THINKING) in that language.

My vision is that Esperanto will be the language of the AI/chatbots/IoT, and I'm creating that vision every day (IT/analysis and philosophy are my thinking tools). In the spare time and once you master EO, you can learn any other language/skill that will also help with your grand mission. Mine is to change the word (for better). Most rich are addicted to money. I'm addicted to thinking.

Bonŝancon kaj ĝis la revido.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JoAn....
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Thank you very much, Berberu, for taking all this trouble to try to make a change for me! I like the rich and wonderful thinking of philosophers! Mi dankas vin, mi esperas vidi vin poste, ~ I thank you, I hope to see you later.

1 year ago