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"Tu diventerai mamma."

Translation:You will become a mom.

February 28, 2014

58 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lily_blue

i do think it's important to realize the difference between mom and mother, but I don't think we should lose our hearts over it. :(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeffrey855877

especially not here, where "becoming a mother" is good idiomatic English, and "becoming a Mom" is actually bad English - I have no idea what "becoming a Mom" means - and if it means that a woman is going to have a baby, then the English is "becoming a mother" and definitely not "becoming a Mom".

I was marked wrong for "You are going to be a mother" and was marked wrong.

While that doesn't translate diventerai, the only way to translate "you will become a mother" is by saying "You will get pregnant one day" and I don't think that's the intent of the sentence - or is it?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Keith352848

Further, if I may, does the Italian with the absent article imply that "mamma" is assumed to mean "a mom?" Would the specificity of "una mamma," or "una madre" mean the same thing, or just be considered incorrect? Could the sentence be saying, "You will become mom to nine baby chicks..."?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DominiqueB19

Why did they turn down "mother" when they had it as a solution in their translation?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Amerath

I think the difference is the formality. "la madre" is "the mother" and "la mamma" is "mom/mum" from what I understand. I think mother should be accepted but it is important to note the difference for real world use.

My question is why "una" is not used in this sentence when describing "a mom"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Conn112

"Diventerai madre/mamma" is how a doctor would normally tell a woman she is pregnant. "Diventerai una mamma" is a more hypothetical sentence, but there is truly little difference between them.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeffrey855877

In English, we don't say "you're going to become a Mom" when saying that a woman has become pregnant. It's "become a mother".

In some colloquial usages, "become a Mom" is acceptable, but it's far from the normal usage.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/anna857144

No one says become a mom....ever


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mdsawyermd

I agree...they accept both answers ('mom' and 'a mom')...but those are two distinct meanings in english.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

They just accepted it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeffrey855877

"You will become a mom/mother" is still bad English. This is another rare instance where "going to" is appropriate and "will" is not. And, also, in American English, it's "You are going to be a mother" not "You are going to become a mother". "You will be a mother" means "you're not pregnant yet, but you will be one day".

Duo's "correct" answer is really off-the-wall wrong.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caterinabella

Could the article "una" be put before "mamma"? Just asking...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

I put this to my Italian mother-in-law who said that she didn't see anything wrong in putting in the indefinite article in this case. Both versions i.e. with or without the article sounded OK to her.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Wichito390

E come si dice: "You're wife has gone into labor... "?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pierugofoz

"Your wife has gone into labor" can be translated:
1) Tua moglie è entrata in travaglio
2) Tua moglie ha iniziato il travaglio


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Wichito390

Grazie mille!!! :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeffrey855877

It should be "you're pregnant", but that is not at all clear from anything Duo has provided.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

My rather fat dictionary also has "mother" as a translation for "mamma", as well as mom, mum, mummy and mammy. So, "mamma" is not always so diminuitive.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/silkwarrior

Why can't this be translated as "you will become mum" (ie not just any mum, our mum. Especially as there is no indirect object in the italian.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tuftypoem

That doesn't make any sense in english.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/silkwarrior

:) now you mention it tufty you got me wondering, but then after a bit of thought maybe figured what I meant - mum dies with young kids, eldest sister told she will be mum. Makes sense. Kinda similar, if darker, to "you BE mum" when pourng tea. So that would be the sense. And now, according to juraj, it has been accepted as gramatically fine. So all good? Have given you a lingot for your tact :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BobPonte

And if I may present another slightly different hypothetical possibility: Sis, you're more like her every day. One of these days you will become mom!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tuftypoem

Haha I appreciate it


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Tell that to any woman reading or being told the results of a pregnancy test.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Steven193851

I also interpreted this in a similar fashion, but used the definite article: "You will become the mum." (of some group). Not accepted though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/juraj.slavik

Already accepted (2015/8/4).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Amelite

I am going to report an alternate English translation. I wrote "You will become a mama," but it rejected. "Mama" is used in English just as "mom" is.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

The chances are a native English speaker would say "You're going to have a baby". Traduttore, traditore.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Randonneur3

'Mama' where is that? ('Mum' is the other usual english word.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rcpjenn

The meaning of the sentence would have been much clearer if they had put "una" or "la." Otherwise, it sounds weird, and left me wondering, "What are they trying to say here?"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/herrtrebil

I took this as a person taking on their parents personality traits as they get older ...which we all inevitable see at some point lol


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jae633849

Un giorno in futuro, o tra nove mesi?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

Sua moglie ha cominciato ad avere le contrazioni.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Val361271

'You will become mother' was accepted by DL.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Val, it shouldn't have been since without the article 'a' it sounds very unnatural.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sharon520329

I put "You will become mom" and they said it was wrong and had to be mum. Ridiculous!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Sharon -- Don't say a thing -- mum's the word! :-) I sympathize & agree, ridiculous.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

Did you know, Germanlehrer, that 'to keep mum' or 'keep mum' has its origin in Mediaeval English and is imitative of a sound made with closed lips.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Peter...I did not know that and appreciate it. The next logical question I have to ask then is: do we call an enbalmed Egyptian 'mummy' because its lips are sealed? Inquiring minds want to know. :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

Nice one, Lehrer! There's an English dictionary next to my pc, it's full of interesting stuff like that. I don't know if you are interested in dictionaries, but Oxford University Press do a digital version of the Oxford English dictionary plus English to 8 foreign languages for £17 per annum. Given that the Italian/English dictionary, alone, in printed paper format cost about £65 when it was still available, I would say that the digital version is a bargain. You can use it over various devices including pc, smartphone and tablet. Just in case you were wondering, I don't work for OUP.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Peter, There's a glass of wine next to my pc -- oh, wait, that's something else...seriously thanks for the info. Much appreciated.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

Dear Sharon, The Concise Oxford Dictionary provides the following definition for 'mom': 'noun. North American term for Mum'. I believe that DL website has its base in the USA. I guess then that the DL adjudicators should know that if 'mum' is right, then so must 'mom' be right. I think you should report this matter to DL.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/somna

In english, "You will be a mother" = "You will become a mother"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

somna, you're correct as far as the meaning goes, but duo's 'teaching' the verb 'diventare' in the sentence, so why would you translate it as if it were a form of 'essere'? That makes no sense to me. My point being you've understood the meaning, but have you learned how to use the verb 'diventare'?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

Language is what people say.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Germanlehrerlsu

Peter...True, but it ain't always correct & sayin' it don't make it right.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Peter_Shelley

I guess I should have been more direct and explained that, in this case, if the verb 'to be' is what we would use in English, rather than 'to become', then we should not be afraid to use 'to be'. The target language is, afterall, English.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ECCA1980

Actually, a LOT of people say "You're going to be a mom!" in excitement when they hear someone is pregnant.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dick403354

I wish we didn't have to use this American word. I use Mum or Mummy but Mom grates on me for some reason.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TerryMay1

In American English " You are going to be a mother" is more common usage than the formal "You are going to become a mother." When someone announces that they are expecting, it is normal to say, "I'm going to be a mother." So it should be accepted.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gino818251

I just commented on another question about the inclusion of an article. Here it is literally "you will become A mom" yet the article isn't used. It's maddening. Or should I say it's A maddening?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michelle836345

Why no "una" before mamma?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnDover2

Why is going to be not an acceptable rendering for diventare ; certainly it reads as better English. Become has some notion of a distant possibility rather than a report on a current diagnosis, and as for MOM ugh! I have never heard it used apart from American films.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nosola1

I translated this not understanding - you will become mother (maybe pour the tea?) yet hot it right.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ndbaco

My answer and yours are the same!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarceloPelica

mottttttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it's the same, come on!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vik000

I will stop the clutter when you fix this mother-mom issue.

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