https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

February Incubator Update

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So far, the amazing Duolingo community has started creating 21 new language courses in the Incubator, of which 8 have been released in beta. Because of this, over 750,000 more people are now learning languages without having to pay a single cent.

Over the next few days we plan to let contributors start two new English courses. One of these is from Czech (as some of you noticed when we accidentally released it too early!). Can you guess the other one?

But, the question on everybody's mind is when we're going to add courses to learn from English. All the courses so far have been to learn one of our six original languages -- English, Spanish, French, German, Italian and Portuguese. We started with these because we had the lesson plan for them, and we had not created a way to edit the individual skills to make a new lesson plan. However, next week the Incubator is getting an overhaul that includes our new tree editor, which will allow mods to create courses to learn any language!

The first courses that will be started are the "reverse" courses for Russian, Polish, Turkish, Hungarian, Romanian, and Dutch.

Working hard.

4 years ago

232 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

"The first courses that will be started are the "reverse" courses for Russian, Polish, Turkish, Hungarian, Romanian, and Dutch."

Jaw - hits - floor! What fantastic news! Can you hear the sound of Rosetta Stone crumblng?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

IMHO Rosetta Stone is too rich to crumble. Being a user of Rosetta Stone, I'm glad that Duolingo is forcing RS to adapt by improving their service and lowering their price. Personally, as a dedicated language learner who is only striving for fluency, I'm excited to see how RS will change in the upcoming years.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AndreiBarsan
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I agree. Rosetta Stone crumbling completely would do nobody any good. Friendly competition between Duolingo and RS, on the other hand, can help drive both products forward, to the benefit of their users.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Then at least it will have to evolve in ways that deliver more value. Let all that's dislikable about them crumble, and something good remain, and I'll be just as happy.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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Whst is good about it?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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Pronunciation and vocabulary. Pretty much the only decent things about it, but the ability to hear native pronunciations and work on matching their delivery is nice. It's not triple-figures nice, but it's nice. :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elen-ka
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They make you repeat the vocabulary you use with specific frequency and it really does work.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bakhtiyar

It's gonna be a very hard task since you can buy Assimil, Pimsleur and Linguaphone with attache case ALL at once for less.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/greg.iacul

I agree with this. I've used RS and I am not routin for it to fail. Rather, all of this seems great for the consumer. More competition...more choices.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchCrazy

Agreed, it's the free market system at work. RS/Fluenz/Pimsleur and all the other software out there will have to significantly lower their price to compete. Those who want to learn languages will be the true winners because these systems will also improve their techniques to teach us.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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Enron was rich, then they went bankrupt. Palm electronics, blackberry phones, both were the standard technologies, now no one knows or remembers those

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Enron committed crimes and electronics become obsolete... Rosetta Stone (so far) has not been caught or charged with criminal activity nor are the languages they offer services for becoming obsolete any time soon.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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but the software that rosetta stone may become obsolete. just because a language stays does not mean the software to has it wont. as long as duolingo stays free and expands the languages, rosetta stone wont be able to compete. if you want another example you can look at two companies. one pays the workers and one has slave labor, the slave labor company will out compete the paid company.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Have you ever used Rosetta Stone before? Because it's very different from Duolingo. I'm willing to pay for Rosetta Stone for the features that they provide that Duolingo doesn't.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elen-ka
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I agree with you. I personally find Rosetta stone quite a good tool for languages learning, of course, if you do not use just that for your studies. I've been learning two languages with RS and can say their method does work for me. I don't see why one can't use both RS and Duolingo. The more the merrier :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kplife
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Currently Rosetta Stone software is 50% percent off in some stores!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Only another 50% to go! ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Athenicuber

hopefully rosseta stone will be below $100 dollars by next year. it would be good buisness for them.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/APMohar

Still way overpriced when you have websites like Duolingo that are free.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melaninja
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Ah ^_^ that is music to my ears

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samy1979
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I never used Rosetta Stone and I never will do so. I bought some other Software for learning French (over 100 Euro) but it was hard for me to learn with it. Than came Duolingo and learning was Fun. Only to learn pronunciation (and speaking) other software may be helpful.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Aurfore

some of the pronunciation should come naturally with the listening. You can speak on duolingo too, if you turn your microphone on!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samy1979
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Yes one can speak. But the recognition not really useful. At least for French. So I turned it off. But you write best way to learn speak is to listen (as child does).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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Rosetta stone is already in decline. I used it for spanish and i dont know what i learned from it. A lot of it is just guessing and trying to see if it is correct

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Critterpaws

I use it for pronunciation!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JobeyinError

A lot of guesswork trial-and-error? Fortunately no one has ever worn us out by complaining about that on DUO before.. ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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Theres a big difference though. Theres no explanations, so if your new to a specific language, it doesnt teach you the conjugations. Its better to have a list and see the rules before its used

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jasminedesi16
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I just saw a post from Rosetta Stone on Facebook asking what other languages users would want. I guess they are afraid of duolingo :P

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arthurva
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Yeah! I'm also nursing my jaw after dropping onto the floor! Fabulous Luis! You guys really are remarkable!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheLearningCurve
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Yes but unfortunately you will always find those that support companies like RS (think: The Emperor's New Clothes). Never underestimate the brain-damaging power of advertising.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankySka
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AMAZING the work you guys are doing.

Can't wait for Dutch!
Go Dutch Team!!!

:-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/juenvh
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Yes, it is awesome indeed. And I will be very pleased to see Dutch appearing in the Beta box in the near future.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arthurva
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Yes, Go Dutch team! Cant wait either!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/the_admin

I thought that Esperanto was going to be added soon last year because of the picture where its green flag was showcased. Yet it was not the case :( I still hope that it will come soon!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Swdreamk33
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I hope it will come soon too :-) I have applied for the French-Esperanto and English-Esperanto (both ways) but I'm not sure if I will get an answer.

By the way, congrats and thanks for your hardwork! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lachault

Oh yes, learning Esperanto from French it would be so wonderful! What a great idea!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lachault

I'm looking forward to see it in the incubator too... :-D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xiuhtecuhtli
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Demand for an "English for Esperanto speakers" course would be extremely low, which is probably why Duolingo hasn't approved any applications for that yet.

With the "tree editor" becoming available, however, Esperanto for English speakers may get off the ground soon :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Swdreamk33
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https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2042137

Well, according to a Luis von Ahn's conferece, it is the contrary. He even said that it was the most requested language.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xiuhtecuhtli
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No, what I'm saying is that there are few Esperanto speakers who could benefit from an English for Esperanto Speakers course (the only one the incubator could've created before now). There are fewer than 1000 native Esperanto speakers in the world, and fewer than 300,000 fluent speakers, most of whom would already know some English.

As Luis says, however, there are many speakers of other languages who would like to learn Esperanto. So yes, an Esperanto for English Speakers course might be very popular.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto
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Will Russian, Polish, etc. have to graduate from beta before their "reverse" courses can be worked on or can the latter start immediately once the new Incubator functionality is ready? (Or, third option, do you expect any of those courses to graduate from beta by next week? ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lavinae
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Having asked that same question, I've been told that being out of beta is not a requirement for starting the reverse course :)

Source: internal communication incubator.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arthurva
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That is good news! Have two lingots for this inside information.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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Actually, we really hope that those new tools for creating new skills and new sentences will not be limited to only the reverse course. We are not happy about some parts of the current Duolingo tree (Continuous tenses are mssing, Infinitive contains Present simple instead, Past Perfect has no context to distinguish it from Past simple, and so on). We would like to keep our Russian course in beta and rebuild some parts of the tree completely, so that it would better fit the needs of Russian learners.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/0liwia
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I'm doing the English for Polish speakers course (just for the sake of it), and it's the same deal: there are just some things that would need to be arranged completely differently for Polish speakers. It would indeed be great if the English tree could be adapted based on what a given speaker knows.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Upvoted because people should see Lavinae's answer to this question! :) Plus a lingot. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themangeorge
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The flags with the level counter next to our names is going to look very long for some people soon.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lestry
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You just got a lingot for such a true and amazing comment ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MultiLinguAlex
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This is absolutely fantastic and exactly the news most people have been waiting for months! Thank you so, so, so much for making this happen! I'm convinced that this will lead to a huge expansion of DuoLingo.

Thank you Luis and everybody else from the DuoLingo staff =)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

"...exactly the news most people have been waiting for months!"

Agreed! The next six "...from English" courses! "Tree editor"! That polar vortex may be flexing its muscles, but this incubator news has really warmed things up.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/n9yty
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This is AWESOME news! Everytime I read the glowing praise of DuoLingo I keep coming back to see if "Russian for English Speakers" is available yet. And it has not been. I would love to be part of that group, even in early beta! I am so enthused about learning Russian and have been using a variety of methods but would LOVE to see what DuoLingo could do to help me with it! [I don't understand why my post/comment is being voted down, maybe someone can explain?]

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MRMsys
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Comments usually get voted down when they do not contribute anything to the discussion at hand. As comments are displayed by their net votes, this means your comment will be displayed toward the bottom. Don't take it personally, it just means that your comment should be deprioritized compared to others with actual content.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/n9yty
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Thanks! I also wanted to be sure I was being a good community citizen and not doing something wrong. :) I don't want to start out with a bad reputation. If there is anything I can do to help with the course development, I would love to do it. Obviously translation is out at the outset, as I don't know the language yet :), but testing/etc is something I would be glad to do.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dwduo
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There was nothing wrong with your post. But isn't it just swell that a minority of individuals can decide how important your voice is? The highest ranked user on the site (if I'm not mistaken) speaks her mind regularly, and is consistently "silenced" for doing so. What a great system; it trains us all to become good little sycophants.

I'll demonstrate. Commence downvoting of this post in 3...2...

(Surely, I jest? All kidding aside, this system does often bury valid arguments. I think instead, the total up and down votes should be displayed side-by-side, as is the method on many other forums.)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence
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You know, I just upvoted you purely for the sake of derailing your argument.

Bwahaha.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dwduo
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It's all part of my devious plan. If it is downvoted, it makes the point. If it is upvoted, people are saying they agree with the point.

Muhahah...

Edit: Two days later, it remains hilarious and predictable. On the first day, it went (that I saw) as low as -4. On the second, it swung up to +7. So either sentiment flips on odd days or there's more at work. Now, all three of my posts within this subthread are 0, 0, 0. The message that's meant to sent? I'd bet: "We are ignoring your post completely." Yeah, except that it swung wildly in previous days, already proving the point. Mission successful! It's a poor system for a community that has any hopes of being friendly (as is the Immersion setup).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

"Comments usually get voted down when they do not contribute anything to the discussion at hand."

Do you seriously believe that? Comments usually get downvoted when someone either doesn't agree with said comment, or wants their own comment to rise above said comment. It's like that in many places, be it here or Reddit. I absolutely hate it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iustitia
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To be honest I like downvoting in here. I miss it on facebook when I see many "likes" on stupid, offending or untrue comment. Of course it is abused sometimes in here, but it works in many cases.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maria.nils
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What annoys me most about the downvoting is that you often have no idea why people are doing it. It's ok to dislike something or disagree with something, but I think it's just a little bit rude to imply to someone that they are being stupid or offending, without telling them why. Rude, and lazy too. Without the voting, you could still express your opinion, but you would have to use your words

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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As a mod, I don't really use the down-vote anymore. Before I was a mod, I saved the down-vote for comments that I thought should be deleted, like, "Hi," or "ur a loser". Now I can just delete the comments, making down-voting less useful. I agree that if you disagree with a comment, you should not down-vote; you should speak your mind.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dwduo
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There's still these useless lingots to throw around. :) Hordes of hostile Downvoters can't counter that.

DL needs work. Vocab list, community (forum and Immersion revisions), and economy, for starters.

That some users don't recognize that feedback is vital to creating an excellent service/product is a shame (but not surprising).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/angeluis_

Same here! I'm waiting for "Russian for English Speakers" :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Athenicuber

i would like to do that to, but they are usually looking for fluent speakers in both languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr.Manhattan95

What's the plan for learning new characters like japanese and chinese? Because some alterations to the current system would have to be made for this.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jurekcy1

Soon english speakers will be able to say in polish language the most useful phrase ever: "Soy un pingüino" - Jestem pingwinem :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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This will be rather interesting. I wonder though to what extent they will be customisable, does this include:

  • Images;
  • Checkpoints; and
  • Tree structure (e.g. order of the skills)?.

Its also curious that the immersion has not yet been activated for some of these Beta languages even though they basically rely on the same alphabet.

Also, how are the incubator moderators going to know what order the skills must be taught, since I presume the majority of them are not teachers or experts in linguistics. Will there be outside consultants for those purposes?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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I'm not sure about the first one, but I think the second and third points will be under our control.

As for immersion, Duolingo needs to find a good dictionary for the hover-over hints in Immersion. I'm not sure how far they've gotten with that.

We do have consultants in the Incubator from the staff who are referred to as our mentors. Most, if not all of them have taken part in building Duolingo courses so I think they'll be able to guide us throughout the process. They've been very helpful so far :) (Thanks Myra!)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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Good to know. But I presume that the staff has little to no knowledge of some of the languages currently in the incubator, so it seems that either they will have to hire experts, or outside consultants.

Anyway, I presume that as Duolingo grows, it is likely that they will probably have a linguist competent in each of the top 10 world languages at least.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Well, we, the contributors and moderators, are the language experts. I don't think there's any need to hire outside experts.

By now, many of the contributors are very very familiar with Duolingo's structure, I'm certain of it. Many of us have already built courses to English and also taken other Duolingo courses, so I think we have a good enough understanding of what the tree should end up like.

If we have trouble, we can always ask Luis or our mentors or anyone else on the staff who could help.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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This attitude worries me. So you think all you have to know is Duolingo's structure? What about the languages? It is not enough to know a language if you want to be able to teach it. You have to understand it, which is a completely different task. There is a reason why people have to study full time for two or three years to be qualified to teach their own language to non-native speakers!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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That's not my attitude, I'm sorry. I am a volunteer. I don't have to do this, I want to. I'm motivated to help the others on the Dutch team build our course to be as good as it can be. I'm sorry my comment made you worry :( Also, I don't speak for the 67 other contributors and staff members involved with the Incubator, so don't take my speculation as the final word!!

Now, I personally do not think that hiring a consultant for each language is feasible. There are 20 languages on Duolingo that are in different stages of development, and it's soon to be 22 with the new languages being added this week. Hiring somebody for each language would not be feasible for creating that many new courses in the short term. You would not have these 14 or so new courses being created in the past 4 months alone if Duolingo had to pay for a new consultant for each language because hiring a language consultant for each of them defeats the entire purpose of the Incubator!! Instead, you'd likely only have one new course released by this time. Why not just have the language experts build the course on their own if they're getting paid for it?!

We will use metrics to determine the quality of the course. If users consistently fail to make it beyond a certain point, we will adjust our learning plan to make it so that they continue learning and make it farther through the tree. We won't need consultants because feedback from users and information from the metrics will tell us how to teach the language. That's how Luis did it with the first courses on Duolingo: http://youtu.be/gSvTClGB3qg?t=24m54s.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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@KaiEngle I am sure no one is questioning the skills or the dedication of the contributors! And I hope the points we are raising are not taken that way.

(Heck, I give you enough grief with my loose-cannon feedback on the Dutch-->English course, I wouldn't want to give you any further stress than that! :-) )

There is, however, a big difference between the alternative you mention (having paid consultants create the courses) and the one I was wondering about: having, say, one paid consultant (or in-house language expert who probably spends part of his or her time on other things as well) check each tree at some (one!) point of the process, maybe towards the end of the beta stage. This would not cost an exorbitant amount, but would allow Duolingo as an organisation to retain control of their product.

After all, this is how many other professional products are made: you have very good people build it, and other very good people responsible for checking it, independently from the work of the first group. The strength in numbers you have in your users is not the same as a paid, responsible, trained, and experienced person. (I guess the argument behind Duolingo is that it is indeed not the same, it's better. I don't know.)

And finally: I am very interested in the process exactly because I hope to be able to contribute to a course in the future. So any criticism is only meant as the constructive kind.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Gotta agree with hckoenig here. I have also started wondering how the Duolingo staff will be able to ensure a constant quality across courses, when the courses start involving one or even two languages that no one among the staff speaks. I understand there is strength in numbers (of users) starting from the beta level, but in the end it is only a handful of contributors deciding the whole structure and details of the course as well as assessing the user feedback. (It if is the case that no outside experts are consulted.)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stecchetto
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In addition to what KaiEngle says, Luis has said that they are able to optimize course structures by A/B testing different orders of the skills: http://youtu.be/gSvTClGB3qg?t=24m54s.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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Yeah, I do recall Luis telling us that we'll have access to our own metrics to judge the best order for skills.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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I would love to have access to my metrics.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Yeah I'm also wondering how the current moderators are going to create courses in [target] languages. It's easy to translate, but to develop an education program for millions of people from the ground up? Yeah.... not quite the same... especially with a language like Russian, Turkish, or Hungarian.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ALoUSyUseRnaME
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OMG.... :D They're adding MORE things for english natives! Oh yeah, oh yeah, does a victory dance Hmm... they might be adding (for learning english), I don't know, maybe... for persian/bengali/vietnamese/ukranian/tagalog/swahili/hebrew/danish...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mohs3n

I'm Persian :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ALoUSyUseRnaME
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Cool :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/edenludgate
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Vietnamese has already been added to the incubator

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/maria.nils
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Thanks for the update!

The next language apart from czech should be ukrainan or thai, I suppose? Somebody pointed out that those three languages were added to the pre pick list in the incubator very recently (don't remember who, unfortunately).

I'll also have a guess that one of the scandinavian languages, probably swedish, will be the first to get a "for English speaking" course without having the reverse.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Gonna learn 'em all! Especially excited for the Hungarian course so that I can improve. Remélem több ember is fogja tanulni, mert nagyon szép nyelv!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SDL_1987
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Remélem is, szeretem ezt nyelvet :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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ezt a nyelvet :) This is because "Ez nyelv" means "This is a language"

Ez/Az on their own mean This/That as the subject (when saying "a" you can omit "egy"):

  • Ez (egy) férfi - This is a man
  • Az (egy) titok! - That's a secret!

If you're saying This/That as demonstrative (This pen/That egg), a is required between the Ez/Az and the noun:

  • Ez a toll - This pen
  • Az a tojás - That egg

This accounts for all cases:

  • Annak a fiúnak labdája van - That boy has a ball
  • Erre a könyvre van szükségem - I need this book

And of course, this is the same for Ezek/Azok (These/Those):

  • Ezek kutyák - These are dogs
  • Azok a lányok nincsenek itt - Those girls aren't here
  • Ezektől az állatoktól féltem tíz évig - I've been afraid of these animals for ten years

Also, all verbs which use the accusative case for a noun are always in the definite conjugation:

  • Látsz azt a hegyet? INCORRECT
  • Látod azt a hegyet? CORRECT
4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sigmacharding
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Cannot wait for Romanian- I would be great to have the entire Romance language set!

Next up Latin :)

Thank you Duo and thank you kind contributors- your gargantuan efforts should be marked down in history

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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If you want the entire Romance language set, don't forget Catalan!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian
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Galician!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheGandalf
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Or Romansh!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sigmacharding
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Oh but of course! One of my best friends in a Catalonian and so I would love to speak to her in Catalan- normally we speak Castilian :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_Fulvius

or Vulgar Latin lol

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/choeisa

Isn't romansch language vulgar latin?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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No, but it's descended from Vulgar Latin, just like French. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romansh_language

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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And Rhaeto-Romance! :-D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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Hahaha... but seriously, Catalan is spoken by roughly 10 million people and has a literary tradtion. By size and significance, it is comparable to Swedish or European Portuguese. I am not sure about Rhaeto-Romance...

Of course, size is not all that matters...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Well, sigmacharding and you yourself used the word entire... :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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Which earns you a lingot. And we forgot to mention limba sarde, or Sardinian, another interesting story.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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@hckoenig: Yup, of course there are always plenty of languages out there in any given group, some more or less viable out in the real world. It would be great it Duolingo could give these a boost so they are not forgotten. At least Rhaeto-Romance has the benefit of being an official language of a country.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JaneEmily

Think it's absolutely amazing what Duolingo has achieved so far, with the free language learning. The way everyone has done it whether they're staff, contributors, mods, or users - we're all a part of it, and it's just brilliant. Thank you, Duo for making languages available for free that many of us thought we wouldn't learn or couldn't learn until Duo made it possible! :)

On a side note, thank you for the update! We know how hard everyone works to get these languages out and it's very much appreciated. Can't wait to see the languages roll out.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Seriously! Some day we'll be old farts, telling some young kids about life before Duolingo, when you had to go to school for years or pay hundreds even thousands of dollars just to learn a foreign language well enough to read or converse in it. And they'll just roll their eyes and chirp away in 20 or more languages...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Oh my goodness, EXACTLY!

... except, you know, we'll be talking to them in 5-10 langugase ourselves, so they probably will be more like... "You mean people only knew ONE LANGUAGE?"

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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I remember being shy of speaking only three languages the first time I went to Europe, thinking "what with their small countries having 4 official languages, anyone knowing less than 5 will be called an ignorant !".

Now I know better, but I don't believe a majority of people will ever speak more than 2 languages. The fact that great tools become increasingly cheap and easy to use doesn't remove the minimal effort needed to learn a language (I see good examples of that every week when a user realizes learning a language is actually hard and posts his discouragement in the discussion area). And the minimum number of languages needed to communicate with any one human being at a time will always be one (and some could also argue for zero, with enough imagination and patience ;-)).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Well, yes. When I'm excited I tend to use hyperbole.

It's probably true that most people will know their mother tongue and English... while Anglophones will probably learn Spanish, French, Mandarin, or Arabic.

It's just that I'm pretty sure I'll know at least 6 languages at some point in my life—English, Romanian, French, Spanish, Korean, and a sixth which I'm not going to guess at.

Language-learning is great because it's a constant puzzle. You're literally training your brain to think differently.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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Yes, that's one thing I love about it too. I remember reading somewhere that it was recommended, among other things, for aging people to learn a new language, to delay or prevent the firsts signs of senility and Alzheimer. So I'm glad my being in couple with an Italian have encouraged my soon to be retired parents to try and learn Italian. Even if they never get to a sufficient level to be able to communicate with my in-laws, I feel their mental health and lucidity will benefit from the effort !

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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I'm already not so bad at 4, almost 5. I'll probably try to learn Russian when I'm comfortable with German and I've recovered my proficiency in Spanish. And if I want an easy one in the future, I'll try my hands at Romanian ;-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Oh, yes, exactly. Once Duo's English for Romanian comes out of beta I'm sending it to my grandmother so she can learn English—I can't speak to her in English because my brain blocks up.

Which languages do you know now? English, French, Spanish...?

I definitely wouldn't call Romanian easy. We have a definite article that acts as a suffix, genders (three of them: masc, fem, neutral)... well actually those are the only hard two things I can think of right now. XD

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BastouXII
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I meant Romanian would be easy because it's a romance language, and I already know French, Spanish and Italian. Also, I'm studying German, so not too much of a big deal the 3 genders. And of course, I know English.

I've tried to represent the Languages I'm proficient in with my avatar : Canadian English, French and Italian. I've forgotten too much of Spanish to say I'm proficient in it, and I'm studying German here on Duo, but I already did 2 short courses before joining, but that was a few years back.

And the big bicolor one at the back is one half red Canadian maple leaf and one half blue Quebecker lily flower (fleur-de-lis).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Yes, in that case it would be simpler. We do have Slavic words in there, so those may be harder (they're hard for me).

I just noticed that! It's so pretty.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mohs3n

What about English for Persian speakers ?????????????????

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

"Can you guess the other one?"

It'll either be Ukrainian or Thai because they were both recently added to the Incubator application page. My money is on Ukrainian first.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vedun
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The next language is probably going to be a scandi one.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kradeka

I hope so! Would love Swedish!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kirlll
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Fantastic! Can't wait to start work on the reverse and checking out all of the other languages! =)

Exciting stuff!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrHuckabee

Will more advanced courses ever be added to the original languages? I would like to see the tree grow.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kbogovic
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Looking forward to learning Turkish. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pleurocystites
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I know, me too. And the English for Turkish speakers course was built so quickly that I am already getting my hopes up really high.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/saygink
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Yep! I hereby declare that I put twenty lingots in favor of "Turkish for English speakers course" is going to be the first one to be finished! (If starts the same day with others of course))

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NickM98
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I am sooooooo locking forward to Dutch :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/araparseghian
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Next one is going to be Ukrainian or Thai

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/marcocaramori
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Amazing news! Congratulations for the new features! Does this also mean that the current trees can be edited and improved?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tariqnisarahmed

Next level one, next level one...? If DL were political, I'd say Ukrainian. But since DL is pretty neutral, I'll go with a neutral, too: Swedish? Sounds good.

But it will come out in March, and our owl is green, so I'm guessing that Irish eyes will be smiling. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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I had actually signed on with my fingers crossed hoping for some kind of news. Thank you so much!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eggplantbren

Great news! My fiancée and I are looking forward to Korean from English at some point in the future!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stenvold

Lets get some Scandinavian Languages on here!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ClaraH1
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Ditto! Norwegian would be really nice.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot
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thanks it all looks good ...... impressive .lovely

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando
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Great work!

Can't wait for the reversées.

My guess is persian!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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Great - I am looking forward to Polish and Russian. Thanks for the update.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mitchell_MT
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Thank you so much!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melaninja
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Dutch!! I'm looking forward to that one :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Erven.R
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Me too!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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My family is hating on me for not speaking or writing fluent polish, even though i can manage. Now duolingo is removing hate from my family from me

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen
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Oh my... gosh? That sounds horrible. o_O

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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it is. my entire family and family friends know fluent polish since they are immigrants, but i was born in the united states so i wasnt able to learn the material to the point where it is required in europe

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Morgengrauen
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If they express that strong amount of negative feelings towards you for that reason, I doubt they will stop "hating" you once you improve your language skills. My bet is on a shift towards another thing they can despise about you. But, well, I don't know you or your family or the circumstances... so I'll stop it right there.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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they dont actually hate me for not being 100% fluent, they just dislike how i didnt learn polish to the fullest extent

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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Fantastic news!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/blck_lght
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awesome! I'm currently re-learning my Turkish by "studying" English from Turkish Course, but I surely will do the Turkish from English When it comes :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kikimotley

i can not wait to learn Russian. I have tried lots of websites, but they don't work as much as Duolingo did. I really hope Russian comes soon.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ruthlilycat

There are languages on the verge of extinction that I hope DL gets to before the last person that speaks it passes away. Also am interested personally in Latin, Ladino, Yiddish, Hebrew, Shakespearian English, Portugal's Portuguese. Also am interested in many Native American languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzOprofesor

There are already at least 3 people signed up in the incubator! And several more who have said they are willing. I hope this means that they soon can start to work on it.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/metsfreak2121

Hebrew would be great!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ClaraH1
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How long does it usually take for a new course to graduate from the first phase? I'm going to be travelling to Romania in August, and it would be nice to have at least some experience with the language before then. :)

I'm really excited about these new languages! Russian is going to be so fun. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Someone did the math (I'll try to find the link for you) and found it's about 83 days. English from Romanian (ENG-ROM) graduated in about 60 days, I believe.

The reverse courses are another kettle of fish, though. While the words/sentences have been mostly translated, the TREE has to be created. So while the course will probably start at a high percentage simply because most of the words and sentences are translated, the tree creation will involve a learning curve and strategy. So it might take a month with the reverse courses and it might take three months... just because no one has any idea how long the tree takes to create.

Most of the younger generation, especially in Bucharest, speak English. If you'd like though, you can practice with me on the activity streams—I'm Romanian-American. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ClaraH1
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It sounds like it'll be into beta a month or so before I leave then. That's perfect!

I might take you up on that sometime! Thank you. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1927324 Found it!

It took English for Romanian about 45 days (though that's an estimate, no one was 100% sure when Romanian ENTERED Phase 1).

You can always try doing the reverse course to get the basics down. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ClaraH1
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Thanks! I actually looked at that course, but instead of "Start Course," it says "Switch to Course." That kind of scared me off :P I really would hate to lose all of my work in German.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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You won't lose anything; you can switch back and forth between courses.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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@hckoenig and rajuncajun09 No, as I said above, you don't lose anything.

I am currently doing both the French-->English tree and the Dutch-->English tree (the first as a reverse course and the second to help out the Dutch team and strengthen my Dutch spelling since there is no English-->Dutch tree yet).

I can switch between these two without problems; nothing gets deleted. The trees themselves are not connected -- I can surge ahead on one, and the other one continues where I left that particular one last time. The XPs, however, are added up together from both courses. This makes me think that the streaks from both are also connected, so that doing only French-->English one day will mean my Dutch-->English is also kept alive, but this I haven't (dared to) test(ed).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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@annika_a: I have recently read a comment implying that this is not always true. If you switch to another course with the same target language, but a different source language, you will lose all the progress made in the first course.

Can anybody confirm this?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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@hckoenig: No fortunately that is not true. It is true that if you switch your source language to another language, your current courses will no longer display and only courses for the new source language will display. However, you can simply switch back to your original source language and you will be able to pick right back up from where you left off. For example, I am learning french and italian from english now. I can switch to learn english from french, and french and italian will no longer show in my account. Only english will. But if I want to see my french and italian courses again, I just change to learn french from english and I get them back.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hckoenig
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@rajuncajun09 Thanks - However that means you are learning different target languages from different source languages. But what happens if you are learning Spanish through English and next Spanish through French? I remember to have read a comment saying that when you switch to Spanish through French, your progress in Spanish through English will be deleted.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rajuncajun09
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I'm glad you appreciated those calculations!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dylannyerges

This is amazing! I've been dying to learn Hungarian so that I can connect with the other half of my family - a part of the tree that i've never spoken to before! Yes, finally being able to learn my roots is going to feel good! :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Nézd meg ezt az oldalt, miközben még nincs itt a tanfolyam: http://www.hungarianreference.com/ (Check out this site while the course isn't out yet)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chocky

Great! I'd love to contribute, but haven't heard back about my application :(

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarquiseDeBat
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Same for me. But since I know I am not entirely perfect (although I trust in my skills), I hope the selection is for a good thing. Neverthless, it would be nice to get at least denying answer to know, what is going on...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore
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If you have not heard back, it is a good thing because probably the language moderators are keeping your application in the "under consideration" pile. Good luck to you!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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I choose to think like that as well :-D As long as the courses I have applied for aren't fully stocked with contributors, there is always hope!!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarquiseDeBat
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You made my day, thank you! :) I am the kind of person who gets any little thing as a reason to keep on hoping :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chocky

I guess that's good news then. Thanks for your response!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jitengore
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Sure, meanwhile it won't hurt to keep bringing gold on your tree(s) and extending you streaks :-)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/squiggy.fl

So it has been over a week. How are they liking the new tree editor? Im guessing that there are a few kinks since they didn't start reverse trees right away. There are always kinks to work out with new technology.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larisa_L
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We still don't have the new tree editor. We're promised to have it next week.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/squiggy.fl

So are we talking 7 more days, or 13 more days? It is sunday so I am assuming you mean the week that begins next sunday.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
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Er... a cultural thing, our weeks tend to start on Monday ^_^. We are promised it is going to be ready for us tomorrow. Thats when we start fiddling with the editor and learning how to make changes and build lessons (from an existing tree or from scratch).

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sommerlied
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Very awesome news! Thank you so much for your hard work :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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Thank you so much for the Info, Luis. You're always giving us amazing news. Looking forward for the reverses courses from English :D So excited! :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/springbett
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My life is now complete. Although, how will the Russian alphabet be taught? Will there be separate lessons for it?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pleiadian_

Probably... there are only a dozen or so letters to learn. It should be cakewalk.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AmineK
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a cakewalk ? there's at least 33 lettres man, check this wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idshanks
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Yeah, a dozen is a slight underestimate :P

That said, I do agree that it's a pretty easy task. I learned the Cyrillic alphabet in two days. I still haven't learned even the absolute basics of any of the languages which use it, but I now have the alphabet ready for when I feel I can stop focusing on German and branch out a little bit.

All you have to do is look up alphabet videos and handwriting videos. I absolutely recommend learning the alphabet via handwriting - it is a much more effective way of embedding it than simply pressing a key and having the letter there for you! Learn the pronunciation of each letter as it applies to the language you're interested in (I learned the pronunciation of the characters as they apply to Bulgarian, Ukrainian, and Russian). Then practise some basic words, and try your hand at writing them out and pronouncing them - after that, look them up on forvo.com to hear a native pronunciation. You'll internalise it in no time at all. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_-C1-_
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Thank you! That is so awesome!!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperSwipe
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I can't wait!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperSwipe
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I'm so exited now!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/octatone
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Any plans for learning any Asian languages for English speakers?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

Once the English for speakers of Korean, Japanese, etc. courses are done, they will be reversed, just like what is happening with Russian, Dutch, etc. courses next week.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

This is amazingly awesome news! Great work everyone involved!:)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StuffieStephie
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My guess: English for.... Danish speakers? Anyway, all this news is great! I'm so excited I can't take it :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chilvence
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My Australian buddies went to Roskilde and came back with stories of everyone speaking English, they were pretty surprised. I am as well to be honest - it seems to be taught so widely, Duolingo's beginner levels might be a bit redundant? I just hope it doesn't affect the courses the other way around, I want to use Duolingo to study a Scandinavian language, whichever one is first...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Le0zJilliumz

When will Swedish be added? I have family there and would love to be able to speak with them

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jkl
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Norwegian seems cool. I read that the singular, plural, i, you, them and the other variants all have the same endings

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adamyoung97
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Norwegian, Danish and Swedish all share this glorious trait (so does Chinese and a few others do as well I think). Makes it a lot nicer to learn - jag lär mig Svenska :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Purpullsee

This is really exiting :D personally I would like to try some japanese, Chinese or Korean, do you reckon thats on the cards?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexandernext
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The Phase 1 Japanese course is looking to finish on Monday (or probably even tomorrow -- 97.8% done) and then it will go into beta. Then the Duolingo team will allow the team to work on a reverse course -- Japanese for English Speakers. Chinese and Korean are both in Phase 1. (66.8% and 27.4% respectively) They will come soon.

Follow these course progress pages and subscribe: https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ja/all for Japanese https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ko/all for Korean https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/zh-CN/all for Chinese (Simplified)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Purpullsee

Yay :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tonywangtj
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This is great news! Lets learn all of 'em!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/katertot254

So Excited. Thanks Duo Team!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sandseven7fxxk

oh yes, I can. LOL

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ParisianDreams

Dear Duo: Thank you so much for offering this, the best course I have ever used. Every day I WANT to sit down and learn - that's a huge change from everything else I've ever used!!!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VEddie

Great to see that enthusiasm!

Might ask my sister to join up about the Reverse Russian one... :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rambo.e
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This is great news for all!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FakeCrash

Any chance to get French to Spanish or Spanish to French ?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexandernext
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They're both here already. [CORRECTION: Spanish for French is in the works.]

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Joeyshere
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So great! Thank you Duolingo. I am so excited to begin these new languages for English natives. Thanks again

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jun-Dai
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Yay, Hungarian!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Orion21
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"The first courses that will be started are the "reverse" courses for Russian, Polish, Turkish, Hungarian, Romanian, and Dutch." Does this mean we will be able to learn these languages from English?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Yes. :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Orion21
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Ok, really excited now! Thanks :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nada.Sh
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Can't wait for Dutch!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Athenicuber

While you are waiting for the Dutch course, you can try the German course, because the languages are very similar

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/caselthor
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So excited for Russian and Turkish because I plan on moving to one of those respective countries for next school year. I also got my eyes on Hindi and Greek though. Too many to choose from.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Azhdaha
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Very excited to try out Turkish and Russian!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J324
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Let me guess... Vietnamese? :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hetechocomel

This is awesome! I wish I could learn all the languages at the same time! Also, are there any plans for a German course for Dutch speakers?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/evdev123

Afrikaans please. How can we get this on the agenda?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ezegram

work hard, play hard ♪

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mundusfr
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It is a very good work. Thanks a lot for all you have done for everybody...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CaptainKhan

Totally awesome!!! I was really anticipating the russian course . i commend you for your hard work Team Duo.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShirleyKeeldar
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WOOHOO!! SO EXCITED. :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MarquiseDeBat
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I was so exited about czech in incubator and now, when I know, it is possible, I am looking towards it even more. May I ask what happend wrong, that it was released sooner than it was ready?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anna._
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Wow I'm always seeing great things happening on duo since I found it by chance looking to apps now I use online too! Luis and all the duo staff and language contributors are amazing! thank you so much for all your hard work, progress happens so fast on here! I'm so excited for new languages for English speakers yay! haha

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/eyal.horow

Romanian for english speakers sounds good. I wonder why there are only few people who use the english from romanian course. Romanians don't want to learn english? their neighbors from Hungary are the most motivated to learn English it seems...

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/attcat23
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The Romanian course has not been in beta for as long as the Hungarian one, which is why it doesn't have as many learners. The Hungarian one also got some publicity that led to a lot of people starting the course on Duolingo. I imagine the number or learners for Romanian will go up as more people discover the course :D

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aminowrimo
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Most Romanians start learning English in kindergarten, in school. By the time they reach internet age, they're already practically fluent. I'm guessing most of the users are either Romanians willing to help translate, or people trying to learn Romanian using the reverse course. I will be recommending it to my grandmother once it leaves beta, but most of the younger crowd that uses the internet regularly isn't going to be on here because they study English from a very young age and already know it (at least in cities, where internet is more prevalent.)

Also, Romanian has been in beta for about a month now :)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zcggcz2

Hopefully this means that they will eventually make a Greek course for English speakers. I want to be able to speak to you in Greek Yaya Voula and Papou Alekkos!!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chingmoj
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I enjoyed RS, I am enjoying duoLingo more. Doing RS as much as I did has helped me improve fast on duoLingo. Competition is always good, and duoLingo's business model is going to be hard to beat. Kudos to douLingo for a superior product!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BobbieL
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It's wonderful that you're making such good progress.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SanjaH
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I cant wait for czech :) unbelievable that someone will finally make "more obscure languages" available for free. Did i kention that i love duolingo?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/idril81
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Guys, YOU ARE AWESOME. Even with the English tree finished, I cannot express how grateful I am for all of you.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elen-ka
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Great job, guys! Can't wait for Dutch and Russian courses. Thanks a lot for all your efforts, you are the best!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzOprofesor

Awesome! More opportunity for the incubator means more power to the people!

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/suezq
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Swedish? So I can speak to my Grandchildren. I hope so. Love Duolingo.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Captanne
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Brilliant. I am so grateful to Duolingo. On a personal level, I would love to see conversational Welsh show up -- I used the Rosetta Stone program until they discontinued it and it was the best ever. The BBC has a good site but neither RS nor the BBC is as good as Duolingo. (The RS Welsh software doesn't work with the most recent Apple upgrades so it's obsolete.)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TimDeets
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I thought DuoLingo was working on the reverse course for Russian a while back. Actually, I thought it was supposed to be out this month. Any idea regarding the timetable for the release of Russian for English speakers now?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alexinIreland
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When exactly will the reverse courses be available and will we have to wait for them t be released from Phase 1?

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GuerraAmanda

Y-E-S

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/metsfreak2121

You guys should offer a course in Hebrew for English speakers. Israel is quickly becoming one of the tech capitals of the world; plus, there are several ancient documents that you can read in their original languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gorilla7

marvellous, been waiting for some new languages for a while. Looking forward to learning these languages.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Philippe.woerth

Good news, they are now in phase 1 since a few hours !!! It would be great if we could have the % of progression. I will check every day now, so impatient to learn Russian and Romanian ;)

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
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The sentence editor is not fully functional yet, so please have patience. While Duolingo team is fixing bugs and finishing the editor's interface, we are planning the overall layout of topics and grammar points.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HebrewLearner

I can't believe this is how it all started! Without the incubator, I would never have been able to learn Hebrew(it is in the incubator now and will not hatch for a while, but there is still no way it would ever come to Duolingo otherwise). Amazing to see Dutch, Irish, Swedish, Danish and now Turkish on the list of learnable languages!

3 years ago
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