"Do you have training on Monday?"

Translation:У вас є тренування у понеділок?

January 16, 2017

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Zonia435615

"Чи ти маєш тренування в понеділок?" should have been accepted - but it was not. Why not? ("Чи" is still used in the Ukrainian language today.)

January 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

It's mostly used in Western dialects along with other words such as шалик, канапка, пес, etc. This course teaches Standard Ukrainian. However some sentences do accept this as an answer.

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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"Чи ти маєш" is not Western dialect, it is Standard Ukrainian, while "У вас є" is Eastern colloquialism / russism

Neither are канарка and п'єса (шалик - yes)

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

http://www.slovnyk.ua/?swrd=%EA%E0%ED%E0%EF%EA%E0&x=0&y=0

http://www.slovnyk.ua/?swrd=%EF%27%BA%F1%E0&x=0&y=0

And "У + є" is certainly not colloquial. A russism? Possibly. But both forms of "to have" are nearly completely interchangeable and perfectly acceptable :)

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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so both forms are to be accepted

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/sagitta145

They are, just notifying

January 26, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

Sorry I made a typo, I meant "пес" no "п'єса"

http://www.slovnyk.ua/?swrd=%CF%E5%F1=0=0

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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пес is also absolutely standard word. I can give you plenty of polonisms from Lviv region, but I won't ;) Much worse is with hungarisms from Transcarpathian, which are barely (if ever) understandable

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TseDanylo

I'm not a native speaker, and I usually listen to Western radio so I cannot say much about the language of Kyiv (other than it is the standard language). You can find some info on it here: http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/S/T/StandardUkrainian.htm

The Kyivan dialect is the form we use on Duolingo. Not the L'vivan or Transcarpathian dialects (though those Hungarian loan words sound amazing!).

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Enzfj2
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TseDanylo

There is no such thing as Kyivan dialect. Unfortunately I have no time to go through the Ukrainian Duolingo, but what I can see from the discussion that some items are ... disputable.
If you listen to news on Ukrainian TV channels, which are available on the web, you'd find that even central stations have different ideas about the Standard Ukrainian. The general trend is to remove the communist legacy which was intented to diminish the differences between Ukrainian and Russian, as also mentioned in the last paragraph in your reference.

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/sagitta145

Yes, and it's accepted.

January 26, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/sagitta145

It's pretty standard. Also a polite way of asking. It's added in many sentences (was already when I started plowing the reports), but still missing in some.

January 26, 2019
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