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"Do they sell books?"

Translation:Vendent-elles des livres ?

February 19, 2013



A lot of these answers are very formal using inversion. Most young french use "Est-ce que". So for this sentence inversion is not necessary. One can say "Est-ce qu'ils vendent des livres".


… and «Est-ce qu'ils vendent des livres» accepted!


Why cant it be 'les' livres? Why is the 'les livres' wrong?


Les and des always give me trouble as it's not always as simple as 'des' meaning 'some'. I generally think of it as 'des' = some of a group and 'les' = all of a group but I think that's too vague to use in this example.

The best way I can describe it is that 'des' can mean 'any' as well as 'some'. So this sentence is essentially asking if a shop sells 'any' books and not a general assessment of books. So to put books in the definite article would be something like 'Les livres sont bons'

Perhaps this may help explain it a little better: "The plural indefinite article, des, is used when referring to more than a single entity. It is not used, however, when general statements are made about a group - statements that are meant to refer to all the entities that make up that group. This is the role of the definite article as we shall soon see." http://www.languageguide.org/french/grammar/articles/

Being a native English speaker the difference between the use of articles in French and English confuses the hell out of me.

I hope my examples/explanations aren't wrong but at least the link I provided may help.


Because les is an equivalent of 'the' in French. In this sentence 'the books' isn't specified. It's just 'books'. So it can be any book. Thus we use 'des', not 'les'.


I thought it would be 'les livres' in the same way that it was 'est-ce que tu aimes le chocolate?' for 'do you like chocolate'. Obviously not.


Yes, I was thinking the same...


That wording usage relative of "the" to chocolate means more the collective held belief relative to an object. It's saying sort of ... I like all of the collective chocolate of the world. That usage would be incorrect here as they wouldn't be selling every book in existence.


I always get "des" and "du" confused.


Des is simply the plural form of du. Here is a useful link: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2409839


"Des" is the plural of "un/une". "Du" in the sense you are thinking of it is a partitive article and may also be translated as "some", though it is often omitted in English.


Thank you. I posted that earlier comment a while ago xD


If books are masculine, why is Vendent-Elles des livres? a correct option?


Because the "they" in "do they sell books" might be a group of women. "Elles" means "they" (i.e. the people selling the books).


Would "vend-on des livres?" work for this? Obviously, it doesn't in certain contexts, but the way "on" is sometimes used made me wonder...


Not really, because "on" in French is meant as including you too, so you would understand this as "we".


It would not in this specific context. "Vend-on des livres" is something you might ask to your boss if you are working in a shop, the "on" here includes yourself so it's "are we (as a company) selling books ?"


what is the pronunciation of "Vendent-ils"? would I pronounce T?


It seems like it. I'm guessing you do anyway because the next word starts with a vowel. http://www.forvo.com/word/vendent-ils_%3F/#fr


Why not without "des" ?


Because nouns always take articles in French, "they sell books" = "ils vendent des livres". You can't have it without "des".


Why not "est ce que vendent ils des livres"


Because you already have the inversion in "est-ce que", so you don't do it again in the second part of the sentence: Est-ce qu'ils vendent des livres?


I thought you used the definite article when it referred to something generally rather than specifically, as in J'aime les hommes calmes.


When do you use the t in questions? Could it be "Vendent t-ils des livres?"

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