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"Bạn muốn tồn tại hay muốn sống?"

Translation:You want to exist or to live?

January 27, 2017

22 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dan553966

"Do you want... " would be a better option here. In the English, of course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/linguisticalness

Is the second "muon" absolutely necessary?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/corriestroup

And to top it off, if you translate BOTH muons, and give the sentence two "want"s, it count it wrong :|


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EmHo47

No, it's not. VN people say stuff with the structure like "Bạn muốn tồn tại hay sống" all the time.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JenniferJo728845

quirky translation. the sentence has two 'wants' but in this case a literal translation is incorrect. In other exercises a literal translation is required. It's a guessing game....


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dan553966

There is a difference between being "incorrect " and not being accepted by Duo, which comes up with some questionable English at times. The problem, at least on a smart phone, is that you can't get through an exercise until you give Duo what it wants.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CeeCeeSong

it's that way on the computer too. You just have to memorize the "wrong" way to say it, grit your teeth, and use that way when they give it to you again.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobertWitt7

You can get Laban key for Android and it's 1 tap to go from Vietnamese to English. I feel like the complaints about the sometimes quirky translations is ridiculous. This is a free app. There's a lot of programming here. Do you want to pay a programmer to guess every possible correct translation ? That's a lot of time. Think of the word soda or is it soft drink? What about pop or carbonated beverage etc.... Don't take it personal when you get a few wrong. Give it what it wants and move on. I've been to Vietnam and feel this app captures the subtle differences in expression. Thanks Duolingo!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dan553966

Generally, I argee with you. It is very hard to program for every possibility. Duo should be given a great deal of slack on that score. It is, though, hard to take when Duo won't let us out of an exercise until we give it something we know is unacceptable in English.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CeeCeeSong

I do really appreciate the Duo program, but I do both Spanish and Vietnamese in it (and I see you do too!) and I notice a lot of difference between the two languages. The Spanish accepts TONS of translations, and also the English is correct 99% of the time, whereas with the Vietnamese version the English is quite frequently wrong. There should be a VN-English-VN translation process to work on corrections, or English-VN-English, depending on if we're translating to or from. That would eliminate most of the problems.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JenniferJo728845

I agree it is a good app and very complex. I'll look for the keyboard app you recommend. Regarding the frustrations with translations, if Duo ever seemed to respond to the recommendations of users it would become a great app and give a better experience to all.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GinDaw

I actually did get a response once...it said Duo had decided to accept my answer. So, they are listening, I guess.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/XinYee5

So deep that we do not exist


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CeeCeeSong

for a question (and this has a question mark at the end, so...) the sentence needs to be prefaced with "Do."


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LincReed-N

I live in Vietnam and I work with this program and locals in Dong Hoi, they say "what to exist or want to live is correct," and believe either answer should be acceptable


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JenniferJo728845

Translation should be 'do you want to exist or want to live? Duo please note your translation is an incomplete sentence. If you're reading this!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GinDaw

I think, "Do you want to exist or to live” sounds good.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Steve804244

"You want to exist or want to live" is a statement in English, not a question. Add "do" to the beginning of the sentence and it becomes a question. As it often does, Duo has provided an incorrect English sentence and requires that you spit back the incorrect English to complete the exercise. I have seen Duo respond to comments occasionally and make some changes based on comments, but for the most part commenting is a waste of time. Nobody is home at Duo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/oey192

The word bubble approach does not have a "do" in it so you can't construct a realistic/correct English sentence (which apparently it accepts but I can't verify this) with "Do" in it. The bubbles let you say "You want to exist or (to) live" which is a statement, not a question. To make the correct "Do you want to exist or (to) live" you have to type it in manually, which is not terrible, but the text bubbles should give you all the words you need to make the correct sentence


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kieron657731

"Do you want"... Without the auxiliary verb" do", this is a statement and not a question. Yes, with intonation, we may say this but it is bad and lazy English.

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