After all this time, why is it still so difficult to change (base) language?
I know this has been requested a lot. It's been years, though. Isn't it time we get a simpler way to switch between our chosen languages? There are people with more than a dozen of them, for goodness sake; I'm bothered having to switch between three.
Can't we get a simple dropdown that lists ALL of our chosen courses? Leave the "User->Settings->Learning Languages->Confusing Clumsy List->Save->Reload Home Page" (not even alphabetical within a series) shuffle for actually selecting languages to add. What's offered now does help, but we have to go back to the list if we want to do reverse and back again.
Edit: In fact, images to distinguish between language switch already exist, in the discussion area subscriptions box. E.g., big German flag with small English flag inset. Easy peasy. Or heck, just copy the script mentioned below. Most of the work is already done.
Edit2: Changed subject slightly for clarity
It might be worth using the Language Course Switcher (Improved) script, from the Duolingo Userscripts page on the Duolingo Wiki.
Thanks, I appreciate the link. However I don't run user scripts or the tools needed to do so. Duo offers a great many courses these days. It's ridiculously they don't have a simple, intuitive way to switch between them.
Duo doesn't give two flips about the website. The apps are where it's at.
Just my opinion.
If true, that's really a shame. I was assuming I'd see bots on web before it ever came to Android... :(
Luis said in his recent AMA that they're rebuilding the website from the ground up. I don't think they'd do that if they didn't care about it.
I've lost confidence in anything said by Duo. It's usually proven to be half-truths.
E.g. "I should clarify once and for all: we at Duolingo have no plans on adding ads to the website".
And now there are ads.
Not on the website mind you.
Again, my opinion.
Edit: Add in the whole website being down because of "increased traffic"....and saying things will be back to normal soon. In reality/hindsight, seems pretty obvious they were removing immersion behind the scenes before Luis' announcement and the "increased traffic" thing was likely another half truth.
Maybe I'm just too cynical.
You are to pessimistic. It is all about marketing. The users want to hear it, they wrote it... This is everywhere. Without it you will not survive. This is the established business culture. You can't flee from it, you will not survive then. Google played 20 years ago the white knight. Look where they are now. Ohh, I become even more pessimistic...
It's because of the way the site is designed right now, it has to completely flip the userface if you switch between a different base language. I think Luis said they're doing a massive overhaul of the site though, so that might be coming soon.
The convoluted method I described above was literal: User-Settings-Learning Languages-Confusing Clumsy List-Save-Reload Home Page
Choose a different target course from your desired language there. Silly isn't it? Especially for users with a lot of languages.
You can make the "Confusing Clumsy List" slightly easier to use by pressing the first letter of entries for the language you will be learning from. This will get you to the first entry that starts with that letter. Then keep pressing the same key to step through the list. until you have found the course that you wish to switch to.
- For the base language of Spanish, press "Q," which will get you to "Quiero aprender inglés." Pushing "Q" again will take you to "Quiero aprender Guaraní (Joprará)." Continue until you have found the desired language.
- For the base language of Russian, as another instance, press "Я" which will get you to "Я хочу изучать английский... " (I want to study Russian . . . ). Continue pressing the "Я" key until the correct language is current in the list and then select it.
This procedure makes finding your language easier.
Yes, Too complicated for me! I can switch easily from my Spanish to French from the dropdown next to my face, both of which are based in English. What I want to also do is use a base of Spanish to learn English, as a way to strengthen my Spanish. It's pretty complicated and I have a hard time getting back to my basic English home page. Must be too complicated for them to do as well!
I know what you want to do. You and hundreds of other people. The site's been like this since it went public. Who knows? Maybe Duo will revamp their programming. But I wouldn't bet on it. Until then you'll have to put up with it, use a workaround, or not use any base language but English.
Besides the userscript already suggested, another way to get to a course in a different language is to bookmark the page with the courses in that language. Then you can simply select the bookmark and switch to course. It would still be nice, I agree, to have all the courses you are taking in one place.
So I'm learning Spanish and French from my base language English. If I want to reverse and learn English from Spanish, to strengthen my Spanish, can I do it without having set up a whole new account with a different email? I tried with my regular email and it didn't work. I'm confused about how to set up a course with a different base language. Going from Spanish to French is easy, but there was no English offered from Spanish to me. :)
You don't need a new account. Just go to the Add a new course page, and then change the field at the top right labelled "I speak".
I tried that, and it changed my other courses, put me at level one in French and no Spanish. Took a long time to figure out how to get back to my English page, and I'm still not sure how I did it! I'm concerned that it'll put me back at the beginning for my other courses.
Assuming you mean changing the "active" course and not the interface language I'm surprised nobody mentions the dropdown-menu next to ones avatar? In the top menubar next to my avatar I have a flag of the language of my current course and when I hoover over it with my mouse I get all my courses and I can switch quite easily?!? It sound to me like that's what you're looking for, but it has been there for ages :D Hope this helps ;)
Many people learn languages from different base languages. For example French from German, and Vietnamese from English. There is currently no easy way to switch between them.
Having no experience with different base languages (all my courses are from English) I have no experience with any issues (difference in the interface) that may introduce so if that's what dwduo is having trouble with, thanks for pointing it out and clarifying it for me. I only responded to how I understood his question, namely changing the current course, and since that's quite easy for me (but I guess I'm lucky then ;)) I thought I'd mention the obvious (to me in my situation ;)) solution :p
The UI element you mention is very helpful, which kinda makes the point: why doesn't the list offer so-called "reverse" courses, those with a different base language. If they'd add those (by the methods mentioned), there'd be no more issue in this area. It's been a long time coming...
(I see you use a lot of parenthesis, too, kindred spirit.) :)